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Monday Memo: AI Does More with Less. Radio Must, Too

By Holland Cooke
Consultant

imgThe most important sentence in Sharon Gai’s How to Do More With Less: Future-Proofing Yourself in an AI Economy (Wiley) isn’t about technology at all. It’s about leverage. She writes that the goal is to stop being “the busy bee” and instead become “the beekeeper… someone that controls the ‘bees’ to get what you want.” That’s the wakeup call radio needs right now.

Because while our industry debates whether AI is a threat, the rest of the world has already moved on. Gai describes watching Alibaba engineers generate hundreds of thousands of ad banners in seconds – work that once required “thousands of designers” and weeks of back and forth. That moment, she says, was when she realized “the next era of work had already started.” Radio is still acting like it hasn’t. 

AI won’t replace radio. But it will replace radio people who don’t use it.

Gai is blunt: “Will AI replace workers? Absolutely.” But she adds the part radio needs to hear: it replaces tasks first, not people. The winners are the ones who learn to orchestrate the tools. For radio, that means:

  • Sellers using AI to prebuild spec spots, proposals, and category insights
  • Programmers using AI to audit clutter, analyze rotations, and tighten imaging
  • Production using AI to version spots, clean audio, and accelerate turnaround
  • Managers using AI to summarize meetings, draft memos, and model revenue scenarios

This isn’t theory. It’s survival. 

The OnePerson BillionDollar Company — and The OnePerson Radio Station

Gai cites Sam Altman’s prediction that AI will enable “one-person billion-dollar companies.” Radio should hear a different version: the one-person radio station. Not as a cost cutting fantasy — as a competitive necessity.

A single operator, armed with AI tools, can now:

  • Build a full digital presence
  • Produce daily content
  • Generate sales materials
  • Analyze audience behavior
  • Maintain advertiser relationships

Small market owners — the ones already stretched thin — stand to gain the most. 

The Real Message for Radio

Gai’s book isn’t about replacing humans. It’s about reclaiming agency in an AI-driven economy. Radio needs that mindset more than any legacy medium. Because the question isn’t whether AI will change radio.

It’s whether radio chooses to be the bee… or the beekeeper.

To read 2 sample chapters, free, click here.

Holland Cooke is a consultant working the intersection of broadcasting and the Internet. Follow HC on Twitter @HollandCooke and connect on LinkedIn

Industry News

Michael Cohen Interviews Trump for WABC Radio Show

Michael Cohen – President Donald Trump’s former attorney and “fixer” – interviewed the president for his radio show on WABC, New York that will air in its entirety on his Sunday program that airs from 5:00 pm to 6:00 pm. Cohen – who was sentenced to three years in prison for lying to congress and failing to report millions in imgincome testified against Trump in congress and in court. But Cohen says he’s spoken with Trump several times over the past year and the president agreed to do the interview.  WABC says, “The coming-together of these two political heavyweights comes at a particularly intriguing time. Cohen and Trump have been publicly at odds for years, making this unexpected sit-down impossible to ignore. Whatever the answer, Cohen interviewing Trump is sure to generate attention and plenty of questions about what happened to one of the most complicated relationships in modern politics.”

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Giordano: Back-to-School Days Offer Talk Hosts Annual Opportunity to Address the Dumbing Down of America

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Longtime WPHT, Philadelphia midday personality Dom Giordano tells TALKERS that the “dumbing down of America” is one of the most pressing topics on the minds of Americans “still able to engage in critical thinking.” The man dubbed “the Dean of Philadelphia Talk Radio” says, “Wherever I go, one of the concerns I hear expressed most consistently by listeners, voters, parents, consumers and citizens, from all ends of the political spectrum, is how worried and even angry they are about the dismal state of American education, not to mention public discourse in the nation’s media.” Giordano, a former schoolteacher, who hosts the weekly podcast “Old School, New School, Next School,” is one of talk media’s most outspoken experts on education and advocates for it being addressed “before we are no longer capable of operating a reasonably functional democracy in America.” On the podcast, now in its second year, Giordano interviews experts and offers insights about a wide variety of topics from school choice to parental rights, including screen time, social media, and fundamental educational values such as the importance of history and civics. Giordano encourages talk hosts to take advantage of the hook provided by back-to-school season to address this topic and, as he puts it, “make America smart again.”  To listen to Giordano’s podcast, please click here.

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Triton Digital: Political and News Podcasts Growing Ahead of Midterm Elections

Triton Digital says that the results of its Q2 2026 Podcast Ranker indicate that “political and news programming is climbing as consumers tune in ahead of the midterms.” Triton ranks podcast imglcategories based on average weekly downloads in the following order: Comedy (44.5%), News (25.7%), and Society & Culture (21.2%) and reports that the genres with the largest quarter-over-quarter reach growth are: News (+8.4%), True Crime (+1.8%), Sports (+1.1%), and Comedy (+2.1%). Triton says its data reveals podcasts that grew from Q1 to Q2 of this year on its ranker include: “The Ramsey Show” (up 14 places to #16); “The Shawn Ryan Show” (up 32 spots to #22); “The Dan Bongino Show” (up 16 places to #50); and “The Tucker Carlson Show” (up 10 spots to #9).

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Oxley to Receive NAB’s National Radio Award

The National Association of Broadcasters will present the 2026 NAB National Radio Award to Hubbard Radio Washington DC president and general manager Joel Oxley during the 2026 NAB Marconi Radio Awards Dinner on October 20 at the Edison imgBallroom in New York City. NAB president and CEO Curtis LeGeyt states, “NAB is honored to recognize Joel Oxley for his extraordinary leadership and lasting contributions to the radio industry. For more than three decades at WTOP and Federal News Network, and over 15 years at Hubbard Radio, Joel has demonstrated an unwavering commitment to local journalism, innovation and public service. Under his leadership, WTOP has become one of the nation’s premier news operations, setting the standard for excellence in local broadcasting while serving the Washington, DC community with trusted journalism. His integrity, vision and dedication have left an enduring mark on our industry, making him a most deserving recipient of this year’s National Radio Award.”

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FCC Approves Cumulus Bankruptcy Exit; Berner Promises No Cuts to News Staffs for Two Years

Cumulus has not released an official announcement yet but several outlets – including Editor and Publisher – are reporting that the Commission signed off on the license transfers from the old Cumulus to the new Cumulus yesterday (8/19). Interestingly, Cumulus CEO Mary G. Berner sent a memo to FCC Chairman Brendan Carr on August 14 in which she reaffirmed “Cumulus imgMedia’s longstanding commitment to operating its broadcast radio stations in a manner that serves the public interest, advances localism, supports public safety and responds to the needs and interests of the communities it is privileged to serve.” Additionally, Berner addressed the company’s newsrooms and wrote: “Preserving our coverage of newsworthy events, and their impact on our local communities, is exceedingly important to Cumulus Media. The stronger financial foundation that our financial reorganization will afford us is intended to preserve and strengthen, not diminish, our ability to serve local audiences. Consistent with that objective, we commit to maintaining our existing newsroom staffing levels for a minimum of two years following approval of the requested applications.”

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iHeartMedia: Gen Z Driving Resurgence in Radio Engagement

iHeartMedia releases the results of a study by its Critical Mass Media that looks at Gen Z’z relationship with audio and says the data indicates there’s a “surprising resilience of broadcast radio among younger audiences” that is based on the cohort’s “desire for community and belonging.”  iHeartMedia president of insights Lainie Fertick says, “While Gen Z is conventionally thought to want everything on-demand and tailored to their needs, the data shows that teenagers are gravitating to the safety and anonymity of radio to create community. In a world where young people often feel pressure to curate how they present themselves online, radio offers a shared experience where identity isn’t being evaluated and personal taste isn’t on trial.”

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Edison: Conservative Podcast Study Reveals Whose Audience Has Shrunk and Whose Has Grown

Edison Research says its recent review of the audience numbers for conservative podcasts reveals the programs that have seen their audience increase and decrease from the fourth quarter of 2024 to the second quarter of 2026. Shows showing significant imggrowth include: SiriusXM’s “Megyn Kelly Show” – up 115% among weekly U.S. consumers 13+; Cumulus Podcast Network’s “Shawn Ryan Show” up 107%; “The Tucker Carlson Show” – up +13%; Premiere Networks’ “Glenn Beck Program – up 11%; and Premiere’s “Sean Hannity Show” – up +5%. Edison says its data indicates Cumulus Podcast Networks’ “Dan Bongino Show” lost the most audience – down 62% – but notes that Bongino’s leave from the business to serve as Deputy Director of the FBI is likely a factor. Elsewhere, podcasts shedding audience include The Daily Wire’s “Ben Shapiro Show” – down 19%; and Cumulus Podcast Network’s “Mark Levin Show” – down 16%. See the full story here.

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Valorous TV Partners with Mark Walters’ Armed American Radio

C3 Entertainment’s Valorous TV enters into a strategic partnership with the nationally syndicated program “Armed American Radio” and its host Mark Walters. The two say that this partnership “brings together two growing media brands with a shared mission to champion freedom and liberty in America and Constitutional imgrights, including the Second Amendment, educate and inform Americans about firearms rights and legislation, and raise awareness of the issues impacting gun owners.” Further details regarding AAR content distribution and original programming will be announced as projects develop. Walters says, “I’m honored and thrilled to partner Armed American Radio and CCW Broadcast Media, LLC together with C3 Entertainment, Inc. These are historic times for our constitutional rights. We are excited to unite the important current events of the day together with history in an enlightening, entertaining, and educational format that will remind all Americans not only WHY we are the greatest nation the world has ever seen but HOW we got here and WHAT must be done going forward to preserve our uniquely American way of life!”

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FCC’s Gomez Comments on ABC Suit

Following Tuesday’s news that ABC is filing suit against the FCC alleging a violation of its First Amendment rights, FCC Commissioner Anna M. Gomez comments on the matter. She states: “For months, the FCC has waged a campaign of imgcensorship and control against Disney’s ABC stations, using the threat of broadcast license revocations to punish a company for speech this administration doesn’t like. I have long called on companies to push back against this kind of government intimidation, and I’m glad Disney has shown courage and stepped up. This should be a welcome sign for every broadcaster who has felt the weight of this overreaching government pressure in silence.

“I am hopeful that this will mark the beginning of the end of this administration’s disregard for the Constitution and the law, and that the coming months will bring the costly legal defeat this agency has been asking for since it started down this path. It is time this administration understands that the Constitution does not bend to political convenience, and that the First Amendment protects the news and commentary Americans see on their screens even when those in power wish it didn’t.”

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TALKERS News Notes

Dr. Daliah Joins WFEA, Manchester. The Talk Media Network syndicated program “The Dr. Daliah Wachs Show” is joining the weekend schedule at Saga Communications’ news/talk WFEA, Manchester, New Hampshire.

KUT Names Philpott Morning Edition Host. Public radio outlet KUT, Austin names journalist Ben Philpott the new local host of NPR’s “Morning Edition.” KUT says, “Ben has been with KUT News since the newsroom launched in 2002 and was its first political reporter, covering eight Texas legislative sessions and presidential campaigns before becoming managing editor. He succeeds Jennifer Stayton, who steps away from ‘Morning Edition’ after 22 years to lead KUT News’ reporting initiative on aging in Central Texas.”

WUSF Welcomes Ira Glass. Public radio station WUSF, Tampa is bringing “This American Life” creator and host Ira Glass to town for an in-person solo show at the Tampa Theatre on December 5.

WNYC Adds Council Speaker Segment. WNYC, New York’s “The Brian Lehrer Show” is adding a “Speak with the Speaker,” interview and call-in segment with New York City Council Speaker Julie Menin. Lehrer says, “We’re excited that Speaker Menin will be joining our show more regularly, offering New Yorkers insights into the work of the City Council. We’re dedicated to offering listeners an opportunity to both hear from their elected officials in their own words and ask their own questions about the issues that matter most.”

Matthew B. Harrison

Matthew B. Harrison is vice president and associate publisher of TALKERS magazine, founder and senior partner of Harrison Legal Group, and executive producer at Goodphone Communications, Inc.

Role at TALKERS

Matthew B. Harrison serves as vice president and associate publisher of TALKERS, the trade publication serving the talk media industry since 1990. He writes for the publication on media law, copyright, fair use, artificial intelligence, and the legal questions facing broadcasters, podcasters, and digital creators.

As executive producer at Goodphone Communications, Inc., the company that manages TALKERS, he handles audio and television production for the publication and its related projects, including Up Close Far Out with Michael Harrison.

All TALKERS coverage by and about Matthew B. Harrison

Law practice

Matthew is founder and senior partner of Harrison Legal Group, a Massachusetts practice serving creators, broadcasters, publishers, artists, photographers, and media businesses. He practices media law through Harrison Media Law, the firm’s dedicated media-law practice.

His work covers evaluating rights before publication, responding when work is copied or misused, addressing claims and demand letters, protecting brands and creative assets, and disputes involving digital platforms and emerging technology.

He was admitted to the Massachusetts Bar on December 12, 2005, and is admitted to practice before the Massachusetts state courts, the federal courts in Massachusetts, and the federal courts in Washington, D.C. His Massachusetts Board of Bar Overseers number is 664196.

Playing the Clip

Matthew is the author of Playing the Clip: The Digital Media Creator’s Legal Guide to Fair Use, published by TALKERS Books in April 2026. See TALKERS Books Announces Publication of Playing the Clip.

Selected writing

Education

  • Juris Doctor, Western New England University School of Law, 2005 – magna cum laude; assistant editor, Western New England Law Review
  • Master of Fine Arts, Academy of Art University, San Francisco, 2010
  • Bachelor of Arts in political science and Bachelor of Arts in legal studies, University of Massachusetts Amherst and Commonwealth Honors College, 2002

Elsewhere

He uses Matthew, not Matt, professionally.

People

TALKERS has covered the talk media industry since 1990 and is published
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the magazine. Profiles are added over time, and will in due course also
cover figures in talk media the publication reports on.

TALKERS Staff

  • Michael Harrison – Editor and Publisher
  • Kevin Casey – Vice President and Executive Editor
  • Matthew B. Harrison – Vice President and Associate Publisher
  • Barbara Kurland – Executive Assistant to the Publisher and Business Manager
  • David Bernstein – General Manager of Broadcast Operations
  • Steven J.J. Weisman – Legal Editor

Contact details for the TALKERS staff appear on the
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Industry Views

After Warning Talk Radio, ABC Sues the FCC

By Matthew B. Harrison
TALKERS, VP/Associate Publisher
Harrison Legal Group, Senior Partner
Goodphone Communications, Executive Producer

 

imgABC warned that the FCC’s scrutiny of “The View” could reach talk radio. Now the eight ABC-owned television station licensees have taken the agency to court. But the immediate lawsuit is not asking a judge to decide whether “The View” qualifies as news.

Rather, it challenges the FCC’s decision to force those local stations into license renewal years ahead of schedule. On April 28, the FCC’s Media Bureau invoked a rule allowing early renewal when it considers that step essential to an investigation. The stations filed under protest, and on August 18 asked a federal court to halt the proceeding before the FCC can designate it for a hearing.

The FCC says it is investigating possible unlawful discrimination in ABC’s employment practices and whether the stations have served the public interest. ABC calls that explanation a pretext, pointing to public demands that it fires Jimmy Kimmel, threats against its licenses, criticism of its editorial decisions, and the separate proceeding involving “The View.” No license has been denied, and the FCC has not yet answered the lawsuit.

The ABC network does not hold one national broadcast license. Its local stations hold the licenses, and the same federal licensing structure covers terrestrial radio. An online-only show has no FCC broadcast license for the agency to call in.

ABC’s legal argument is that the process itself can punish speech. A costly, open-ended license proceeding may chill hosts, producers and programmers before a regulator ever issues a censorship order. For talk radio, the question is not whether you like ABC; it is whether the government may use threats to a station’s license to influence who gets booked, what gets asked, or which opinions reach the air.

Matthew B. Harrison is a media and intellectual property attorney who advises radio hosts, content creators, and creative entrepreneurs. He has written extensively on fair use, AI law, and the future of digital rights. Reach him at Matthew@HarrisonLegalGroup.com or read more at TALKERS.com.

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Elci Off the Air as WJJF Considers Options

WJJF-FM, Montauk morning drive host Lee Elci is off the air at the Red Wolf Broadcasting news/talk station at the company reviews its options regarding Elci’s recently announced campaign for Connecticut’s 20th State Senate District seat. After announcing his imgcampaign, Elci stated that he intends to not discuss campaign issues or his campaign during his program. But incumbent Senator Martha Marx’s campaign is demanding equal time under FCC rules. Marx tells CT Mirror that if Elci wants to stay on the air, then the station has to give her a four-hour show. The other issue is that if Elci stays on the air, it could be considered an in-kind campaign contribution by the station and that could violate Connecticut campaign laws. For his part, Elci tells CT Mirror the station’s lawyers are seeking clarification for elections enforcement officials. He adds, “Big picture is I wouldn’t want to put my station in jeopardy,” he said. See the CT Mirror story here.

TALKERS Heavy Hundred Archive: 2012–2026

The TALKERS Heavy Hundred documents the most important talk-media personalities in America. It stands as a continuous historical record of the people who have shaped talk radio, podcasting and spoken-word media. This archive brings the rankings together in one place, year by year, exactly as each edition was published.

Current editionThe 2026 TALKERS Heavy Hundred – Ranks 1–25

Regular Heavy Hundred

Published annually by TALKERS magazine. Every edition from 2012 through 2026. Page breaks follow the ranking ranges as each edition was originally presented.

2012 Heavy Hundred

The 2012 edition was published across eight pages. The final page also carries the Talkers 250 listing, which continues the roster beyond rank 100 with hosts 101 to 250 arranged in alphabetical order.

Sports Heavy Hundred: Selected Years

The Heavy Hundred of Sports Talk ranks the most important sports talk hosts in America. It is available for selected years.

2020 Heavy Hundred of Sports Talk

2019 Heavy Hundred of Sports Talk

2018 Heavy Hundred of Sports Talk

2017 Heavy Hundred of Sports Talk

2015 Heavy Hundred of Sports Talk

2014 Heavy Hundred of Sports Talk

2013 Heavy Hundred of Sports Talk

2012 Heavy Hundred of Sports Talk

This archive preserves the rankings as originally published. Where errors have been documented, corrections are recorded; where original materials survived, they have been restored to their published form. Rankings are not revised after publication.

Industry News

Lee Harris Exit from Red Apple Media Triggers Dust Storm of Mystery

The story of noted radio news executive Lee Harris‘s surprising departure (8/12) from his role as senior vice president of news and programming at Red Apple Media’s WABC, New York and its Worldwide News Network (WWNN) has left a dust storm of conflicting details and speculation in its aftermath on radio message boards, social media and industry trades.

imgHarris joined Red Apple Media on May 4 as VP of news for WABC and the new Worldwide News Network, which launched May 23. Six weeks later, Red Apple promoted him to SVP of news and programming, expanding his authority across WABC, WWNN and Red Apple Audio Networks. On August 12 – roughly 100 days after his hiring – company CEO / owner John Catsimatidis announced Harris’s departure. Catsimatidis stated he had requested Harris’s resignation following a dispute involving a longtime employee returning from medical leave. Red Apple later attributed the separation to differences involving “leadership style.” Harris said he had decided to return to his longtime independent business developing broadcast technology products, but neither side identified a replacement nor fully explained in detail whether Harris resigned voluntarily or was dismissed.

Seasoned radio industry veterans know that it is a common practice for the actual details of such endings of employment to remain ambiguous. It is also known that strong-minded members of a company’s staff in both talent and management can be prone to butt heads within the minefield of corporate structure.

In this story, everything beyond that remains unproven. Early forum speculation suggested political or ideological incompatibility, but no reporting supports that theory; available off-record information specifically contradicts it. The returning employee’s identity also remains unconfirmed, as does the precise sequence of resignation and dismissal. The safest conclusion is that this was an internal management conflict subsequently framed by Red Apple as a personnel-related termination and by Harris as a voluntary career change.

Industry News

Beasley’s 2026 Second Quarter Net Revenue Falls 16.7%

Beasley Broadcast Group’s financial report for the second quarter of 2026 reveals net revenue of $44.1 million, a decrease of 16.7% from the same period in 2025. The company posts net income of $84.3 million, a big turnaround from the net loss of $154,175 that it reported in Q2 of 2025. Beasley CEO Caroline Beasley comments, “While second quarter results continued to reflect pressure across portions of the traditional advertising marketplace, imgwe are encouraged by the progress we’re making in transforming Beasley into a more diversified, higher-margin media company. Our digital and local direct spot businesses continue to build momentum, our cost structure is significantly more efficient than it was a year ago, and we remain focused on improving the quality of our revenue. We believe these initiatives are creating a stronger operating foundation and positioning the company for more consistent financial performance over the long term. At the same time, we continue to execute against the financial priorities we established at the beginning of the year. We are operating with discipline, allocating capital thoughtfully, and taking deliberate actions to strengthen our balance sheet through debt reduction, portfolio optimization, and improved financial flexibility. These efforts, combined with our ongoing operational initiatives, are designed to improve cash flow generation and create long-term value for our shareholders. Looking ahead, our strategy remains unchanged. We are focused on delivering sustainable revenue growth, expanding EBITDA through continued operating discipline and higher-margin revenue, and further reducing leverage over time. While the broader advertising environment remains dynamic, we believe the actions we are taking today are positioning Beasley to emerge as a stronger, more profitable, and more resilient company.”

Industry News

Zimmer Petitions FCC for Ownership Cap Exemption

Zimmer Communications files a request with the FCC to waive the ownership cap for its acquisition of four radio stations from Mid-West Family Broadcasting that includes sports talk KOSP, Springfield, Missouri “102.1 The Won” and three music brands. imgZimmer argues in its filing that relief from the ownership cap would not adversely affect competition in the Springfield, Missouri market and notes that if approved, its revenue share in the market would be 33.6% (up from its current 8.5%), while SummitMedia’s revenue share is currently 34.8%. Zimmer goes on to add that in terms of audience share, Zimmer would have 21.3% of the market’s audience compared to iHeartMedia’s 22.3%. Additionally, Zimmer points out that, if approved, 18 different owners would control stations in the Springfield market.

Industry Views

Is the Algorithm Your New Program Director?

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By Matthew B. Harrison
TALKERS, VP/Associate Publisher
Harrison Legal Group, Senior Partner
Goodphone Communications, Executive Producer

 

imgYou post five clips from yesterday’s program. Four do fine. The fifth, an argument with a caller, explodes. It gets more views, more comments, more shares and more click time than anything else you posted.

So tomorrow you post another argument.

That one performs too. Before long, you are clipping more confrontations because confrontation travels. Then maybe the show itself begins to change. You stay on the angry topic a little longer. You take the provocative call you might once have dumped. You learn what gets rewarded.

Nobody at YouTube, Facebook or TikTok called and told you to make an angrier show. The algorithm did not order you to do anything. It simply showed you what produced a reaction, and you reacted to the reward.

Radio people have seen versions of this forever. The phones light up, so we stay with the topic. A feature appears to perform well in PPM, so it gets another quarter hour. Ratings rise, so management asks for more of whatever seems to be working.

Digital distribution makes that feedback faster, more visible and harder to ignore. It also adds another wrinkle: the platform may use strong engagement to give the next clip more distribution. The reward is not just a good number on a report. It may be a bigger audience tomorrow.

That makes analytics tremendously useful. They can show what attracts attention, what holds audience and what helps people discover your program. But a measurement tool can become a programming influence if you start chasing every spike.

A good host learns from the audience without becoming a hostage to it. A good programmer knows what works without assuming that whatever gets the biggest reaction is automatically the best show.

Use the algorithm to distribute your work. Learn from what it tells you. Make money wherever the audience finds you.

Just don’t appoint it the role of program director.

For the larger discussion of ratings, PPM and digital distribution, read The Algorithm Is Listening at TALKERS.com here.

Matthew B. Harrison, associate publisher of TALKERS, is a media and intellectual property attorney who advises radio hosts, content creators, and creative entrepreneurs. He has written extensively on fair use, AI law, and the future of digital rights. Reach him at Matthew@HarrisonLegalGroup.com or read more at TALKERS.com.

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Carr Congratulates Thumann Severs on FCC Nomination

President Donald Trump is nominating Danielle Thumann Severs for a seat on the Federal Communications Commission. She has served two stints at the FCC focusing on matters before the Wireline Competition Bureau, the Public Safety and Homeland imgSecurity Bureau, as well as the agency’s Consumer and Governmental Affairs Bureau. FCC Chairman Brendan Carr states, “I want to congratulate Danielle on her nomination to serve as a Commissioner on the FCC.  Danielle is a dedicated public servant and has worked with skill and distinction on some of the most important matters before the agency.  Danielle has delivered policy wins across the FCC’s economic agenda – from bridging the digital divide and protecting consumers to advancing public safety.  With the advice and consent of the Senate, Danielle would make a terrific Commissioner.”

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Wayne Allyn Root to Interview President Trump

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Las Vegas-based, nationally syndicated talk media personality Wayne Allyn Root is interviewing President Donald J. Trump for the 17th time since Trump was first elected in 2016 – something that Root tells TALKERS, “Has to be a record.” Root says the interview – scheduled for next week – leaves nothing off the table. Moreover, Root tells TALKERS that he is proud to be an ally of the president’s “in his defense of the Jews and Israel and a defender against antisemitism.” See the promo for the interview here.

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The Algorithm Knows What You Did But It Doesn’t Know Why

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By Matthew B. Harrison
TALKERS, VP/Associate Publisher
Harrison Legal Group, Senior Partner
Goodphone Communications, Executive Producer

 

imgA viewer watches the same political clip three times. The platform sees a powerful signal: this person stopped, stayed, and came back. What it cannot reliably know is whether the viewer loved the argument, hated it, was factchecking it, or was showing it to someone else in disbelief. The algorithm knows a viewer watched. It does not necessarily know why. That is why YouTube looks beyond viewing itself to other signals of appeal, engagement, and satisfaction.

That distinction matters to broadcasters because digital analytics can look much more intelligent than they really are. An algorithm can measure behavior with extraordinary precision, but behavior is not motive. PPM taught radio a version of the same lesson. Nielsen’s meter can passively detect exposure to encoded audio, but the resulting audience measurement cannot tell a programmer why someone listened or why audience levels changed.

Livestreaming creates the opposite problem. Instead of too little explanation, the host suddenly gets too much of it. The chat is moving. People are demanding another topic, praising a guest, attacking a caller, or announcing that the segment is dying.

That feedback is valuable, but the people typing are not necessarily representative of the people listening. Radio hosts should already understand this because callers have never represented the entire audience. They represent the portion motivated enough to pick up the telephone. Livestream chat is the same phenomenon at digital speed.

The danger comes when these two imperfect signals reinforce each other. The dashboard says engagement jumped. The chat says, “More of this.” A host can easily conclude that the audience has spoken when what actually happened is that a particularly active portion of the audience became particularly visible.

Good broadcasters have always listened to the audience without surrendering the show to it. Digital tools make that listening faster and more detailed, but they do not eliminate the need for judgment.

The algorithm knows what people did. The chat tells you what some people said. The programmer still has to decide what either one means.

For the larger discussion of ratings, PPM, algorithms and digital distribution, read The Algorithm Is Listening here: https://talkers.com/category/industry-views/

Matthew B. Harrison is a media and intellectual property attorney who advises radio hosts, content creators, and creative entrepreneurs. He has written extensively on fair use, AI law, and the future of digital rights. Reach him at Matthew@HarrisonLegalGroup.com or read more at TALKERS.com.

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TALKERS News Notes

Clay Travis to Launch New Media Venture. After selling his Outkick platform to Fox Corporation earlier this year, Front Office Sports is reporting that Clay Travis is working on launching a new sports and politics media platform. The publication says that Travis has filed a trademark application for the name, “Sports & State.” See the Front Office Sports story here.

KBNW, Spokane to Carry Vandals Sports. KBNW, Spokane has aligned with Learfield’s Idaho Vandals Sports Properties to carry Idaho Vandals football and men’s basketball for the next two seasons. KBNW market manager Roger Nelson says, “We are excited to partner with Idaho Vandals Sports Properties to bring Idaho football and basketball game broadcasts to the Spokane/Coeur d’ Alene market. The Vandals have a rich history in football and men’s basketball and have long been a leader in the Big Sky Conference. Approximately 16% of the University of Idaho’s alumni base reside in the Spokane/Coeur d’ Alene metro and we look forward to developing a strong partnership with the Vandals and their fans.”

Rob Parker to Receive Innovator Award. The Negro Leagues Baseball Museum (NLBM) announces that in conjunction with the induction of its 2026 Hall of Game class, it is recognizing FOX Sports Radio personality Rob Parker with the second annual JL Wilkinson “Innovator” Award during ceremonies on Saturday, September 26 at the Gem Theater in Kansas City.

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Sabo Sez: Mitch Reed’s Deserved Award

imgBy Walter Sabo
A.K.A. Walter Sterling
Host, The Other Side of Midnight
WABC, New York / Red Apple Audio Networks

The Radio Hall of Fame has just announced their “Legends” inductees, and it includes B. Mitchell Reed. YES!

One of the minor injustices of radio is the curious legacies of Tom Donahue and B. Mitchell Reed relative to the creation of free-form progressive rock radio. They were best friends with parallel careers. Both were top-of-their-game “screaming” Top 40 DJs. Tom in San Francisco, Mitch in LA and NYC. Top earnings, ratings, and both around 40 when they went to the Monterey Pop Festival. There they learned that their teens were changing fast. Harder rock, anger about Vietnam, and drugs. They knew their style of radio was out of synch with the moment.

Every day on his way to work in LA, Mitch drove past the Pasadena Presbyterian church and noticed a radio antenna on the grounds.

The tower was pumping out an FM signal that covered Los Angeles, broadcasting from the basement of the church. Underground. Mitch talked to the preacher he met along the way. And he bought time on the station at night and experimented with playing hard rock and a new form of presentation. His friend Donohue sent tapes from San Francisco, and the two of them created “free form” radio (also referred to as “underground” radio) from the basement of the church. The frequency became KPPC-FM.

Note: both of them created free-form radio at risk to their careers and income while over the age of 40. Tom continued as a progressive rock jock in San Francisco, and Mitch became an icon in Los Angeles as an album rock jock on KLOS and KMET. Oddly, Tom gets more of the image and credit, but they were very much partners.

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B. Mitchell Reed (l), his wife Carol (c), and Michael Harrison (r) at KMET, Los Angeles in the late seventies.

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