Industry News

WWO: Creative is the Key Sales Driver

Suffice it to say that all the planning and targeting in the world is for naught if your audio ad stinks. This week’s blog from Cumulus Media | Westwood One’s Audio Active Group looks at several studios to determine what actually drives sales and one of the key takeaways from a study by NCSolutions isimg “creative quality is the number one sales driver” and this is often a surprise to advertisers and media agencies who think media tactics (targeting, reach, etc.) drive the most sales. It’s for good reason that everyone wants high brand awareness. A major study from TikTok reveals the greater a brand’s awareness, the greater the purchase conversion. Brands with high aided awareness have 2.86x greater conversion rates compared to low awareness brands. But not all categories operate similarly, Podscribe says that purchase conversion varies widely by advertising category and advises that it’s important to understand the purchase conversion benchmarks for your product category. See the full blog post here.

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TV Trend is Radio Wake-Up Call

By Holland Cooke
Consultant

imgSouth Florida viewers are confused. WPLG, which brands as “Local 10,” was an ABC-TV affiliate for 69 years… until yesterday. Now it’s more local than ever, after divorcing its network, whose programming moved to the FOX affiliate’s digital channels 18.1 and 7.2, now branded “ABC Miami.” Among courteous FAQs about this change on WPLG’s web site: “How do I rescan my TV?” to find ABC programming.

FAQ #1: Why is this happening? 

WPLG GM Bert Medina explains, “We made a generous offer to ABC, but it became clear the two sides were not going to agree to a new deal.”

Citing the FCC’s “interest in and the authority to promote the public interest and to ensure that local broadcast TV stations retain the economic and operational independence necessary to meet their public interest obligations,” Chairman Brendan Carr is investigating what he calls networks’ “attempt to extract onerous financial and operational concessions from local broadcast TV stations.” His recent letter to Comcast CEO Brian Roberts announced an inquiry into NBC practices that will also scrutinize other networks’ affiliation agreements. He reckons that networks threatening long-held affiliations “could result in blackouts and other harms to local consumers of broadcast news and content.”

“That’s why we have an FCC license.”

WPLG’s GM explains that “our job is to serve this community with news and local programming.” He – and his Berkshire Hathaway ownership – determined that “if we agreed to the ABC terms, that mission would have suffered.” The last straw? “Exclusivity, which is the core to our relationship, is disappearing. Even when ABC airs high-quality programming, like the Oscars, ABC airs that same programming on other platforms. We no longer feel we are getting what we pay for.”

Proud that “a majority of our staff grew up here,” Medina announced that WPLG is staffing up. “Instead of sending our money to New York, we will keep it in our community and use that money to finance a massive expansion in local news and other local programming. We are excited for the future of Local 10. Just watch us. We are about to serve this community in an even bigger and better way.”

Music has been commoditized 

It’s all over the other platforms and devices increasingly siphoning-off radio listening time and ad revenue. And unlike six-spot (or longer) stopsets now common on FM, streams’ spots are shorter and fewer. And there are NO commercials for paid subscribers who’ve had-it-up-to-here with broadcast music radio.

TV networks aren’t shy about hijacking affiliates’ viewers. ABC offers Disney+, CBS lures us to Paramount+, NBC touts Peacock. And network radio spots are plugging iHeart podcasts.

So, yuh. Make your station as smartphone friendly as possible. But when I jump in the car, and my phone pops-up on the dashboard radio once owned, what comes out the speaker still has to compete. And what is the ONE thing that streams that your robotic FM competitors don’t offer? “Local.”

Holland Cooke (HollandCooke.com) is a media consultant working at the intersection of broadcasting and the Internet. Follow HC on Twitter @HollandCooke

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CRN Digital Talk Radio’s Michael Letts Expands to LA and Portland

CRN Digital Talk Radio says that “The Michael Letts Show” is expanding syndication on two West Coast stations. The program is now being broadcast on KMET-AM, Los Angeles and KBNP, Portland. CRN saysimg the program “continues to build a powerful platform that champions American values, highlights critical national security issues, and gives voice to law enforcement, veterans, and grassroots advocates.” Letts adds, “I’m honored to bring our message to listeners in Los Angeles and Portland. Now more than ever, we need open, honest dialogue on the challenges facing our country – and we’re doing just that, one conversation at a time.”

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Renda to Use Townsquare’s Ignite Digital Advertising Solutions

Townsquare Media announces a digital advertising partnership with Renda Media for the latter to use Townsquare Ignite, its digital advertising solution. Renda operates station is six U.S. markets (Ft.img Myers/Naples; Jacksonville; Pittsburgh; Indiana, PA; Greensburg, PA; and Punxsutawney, PA) that do not overlap with Townsquare’s market footprint. Townsquare Ignite president Todd Lawley states, “We’re excited to partner with Renda Media to bring our market-leading digital advertising solutions to their expansive client base. Our success stems from a deep expertise in leveraging our proprietary in-house programmatic platform and data-driven strategies to deliver measurable value. Through this partnership, we look forward to equipping Renda Media with the tools, insights, and proven strategic approach needed to strengthen their digital capabilities and accelerate client growth.”

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Monday Memo: How You Tune Them Out?

By Holland Cooke
Consultant

imgUnintentionally, your poorly phrased comment, dated reference, weary cliché, or offhand remark can at least subtly distance you from your listener and could undercut your credibility, offend, or even spark backlash.

Whether you’re a broadcaster, podcaster, newscaster, or you are crafting commercial or promo copy, take a fresh look at these often-overlooked pitfalls.

Dated references: Nothing can disrupt your listener’s day quicker than quickly changing weather. Being thought of as a weather source can advantage any station in any format. But you risk that currency by calling tomorrow “…a carbon copy of today.” Few under 50 have ever used carbon paper. And with weather more erratic lately, implying otherwise can make your forecast sound – forgive me – “like a broken record.” Also antique: “Rolodex,” now that listeners’ smartphones have “Contacts.” So, purge old-speak from “the radio dial.” Listeners (and advertisers) notice when we keep-up… or don’t.

Stereotyping: 

— “Soccer mom in a SUV” sure is the retail super-consumer advertisers want to see pull-into the parking lot. Visualize her in programming and promotion planning and sales prospecting… OFF-air stuff. But reinforcing gender roles and class assumptions ON-air paints a narrow picture of parenting and lifestyle, potentially alienating women.
— “You know how Millennials are.” Yes – like “Generation X” – they dislike being typecast, and you sound out-of-touch and judgmental.
— Calling someone “a Karen” can alienate listeners who have felt ridiculed suffering a situation similar to whatever you’re describing. And there are millions in the potential ratings sample named… Karen.
— “Probably some college kid with no clue how to drive in the snow” implies incompetence based on age and background. This kind of dig can undermine younger listeners or newcomers to your market.

Stereotypes are lazy, often a shortcut to humor or imagery. Ask yourself: “Is this something I’d say to someone’s face?”

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Insensitive Humor: “Looks like someone forgot their meds today!” can offend those quietly dealing with anxiety, or depression. Pandemic silver lining: Mental health is no longer a laughing matter. You may have seen TV PSAs by Howie Mandel, sharing how ADHD has impacted his life and asking that it not be a punchline.

“Potty-mouth:” Mom and Dad’s just-the-two-of-them vocabulary is different than the way they speak with kids in the car, and what they want to hear their children repeat after hearing on radio.

— “Pissed-off” has become unnecessarily familiar, particularly with recent inflation…with which we are “annoyed,” “fed-up,” and “frustrated.”
— Even if something sounds commonplace, origins or implications may make it unsuitable for all-audience radio. “Scumbag” began as a term for condom. “Sucks” and “screwed” also have sexual roots some consider vulgar.

Taboo red flags:

— “No offense, but…” or “I’m just saying…” often precede something offensive.
— “It’s just a joke!” often follows a crack at the expense of marginalized groups.
— “Everyone thinks that…” overgeneralizes and can alienate those who disagree.
— Mocking accents or speech patterns can come across as disrespectful rather than entertaining.
— “Real [men/women] do…” Gendered assumptions can feel exclusionary or outdated.
— “This [group] is always…” Sweeping characterizations often reinforce stereotypes.

Words have weight. In a medium where tone, timing, and trust matter, what we say – and how we say it – can either strengthen listener connection or erode it.

NEXT WEEK: Topics to Tune-IN the listeners you want most.

Holland Cooke (HollandCooke.com) is a media consultant working at the intersection of broadcasting and the Internet. Follow HC on Twitter @HollandCooke

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Programming Changes at Nashville’s “The Game”

Programming changes will take effect on Monday (8/4) at Cromwell Media’s sports talk WPRT-FM, Nashville “102.5 The Game.” The midday “DVD” show starring Derrick “DMase” Mason, Willy Daunic, and Adamimg Vingan moves to the 3:0 pm to 6:00 pm daypart. The late morning Chase & Big Joe show – Chase McCabe and Joe Dubin – moves to the 12:00 noon to 3:00 pm slot, and a new program hosted by Jake Lyman launches in the 9:00 am to 12:00 noon daypart. Director of operations & sports program McCabe says, “This new lineup reflects 102.5 The Game’s deep commitment to being the go-to destination for Nashville sports fans. We’re the place to get your news, celebrate wins, and vent about the losses. Your Sports Live Here!”

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“98.9 WORD” in Greenville Tops in June PPMs

Audacy’s news/talk WYRD-FM, Greenville, South Carolina “98.9 WORD” ranked #1 in Nielsen Audio’s June PPM survey in Persons 18+ as well as in Persons 35+. In touting the performances of WYRD-FM, Audacyimg says, “Weekday shows ‘Sunrise Carolina with Joey Hudson,’ ‘The Tara Show,’ ‘The Mike Gallagher Show,’ ‘Straight Talk with Bill Frady,’ and ‘The Charlie James Show’ also secured the top spot across all prime dayparts with persons 12+ and adults 35+.” Audacy South Carolina operations manager Mark Hendrix says, “The exceptional performance of our Audacy Greenville stations is a direct reflection of our incredible talent, the passion they bring every day, and their connection with our listeners.”

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Adkins to Retire; Executive Changes at iHeartMedia

On the heels of this week’s news that longtime iHeartMedia executive Hartley Adkins is preparing to retire from his daily position with the company is news that Ann Marie Licata will assume the president, marketsimg group and sales operations, effective September 1. Licata has been serving as EVP of sales operations and client success. Other changes include Bernie Weiss rising from division president for the Northeast and Chicago markets to COO of the markets group and Paul Corvino, division president of the Southern California division, adding expanded duties focused on national new business development. Adkins will remain with iHeart in a strategic advisor role.

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Just Because You Found It Online Doesn’t Mean You Can Use It

By Matthew B. Harrison
TALKERS, VP/Associate Publisher
Harrison Media Law, Senior Partner
Goodphone Communications, Executive Producer

imgA New Jersey radio station thought they were just being clever online. They scanned a photo from New Jersey Monthly, cropped out the photographer’s credit line, and posted it on Facebook – inviting listeners to edit and reshare it for fun. ying to engage listeners to interact with the station with more than just their ears.”

But that station, WKXW 101.5, ended up in federal court.

Photographer Peter Murphy sued for copyright infringement and removal of attribution. The Third Circuit ruled against the station – finding that the image was used without permission, credit removed, and the photographer’s ability to license his work damaged.

It wasn’t fair use. It was infringement.

Fair Use Won’t Save You from Getting Sued

Fair use isn’t a free pass – it’s a defense. That means someone’s already accused you of infringement, and now it’s on you to justify it.

Even when it works, fair use still costs time and money. In the WKXW case, the station used the entire photo, failed to transform it, and encouraged widespread online sharing. The court saw that as market harm – one of the most important fair use factors.

And don’t assume you’re safe just because it wasn’t part of the broadcast. Courts have made clear that even social media posts by broadcasters can undermine the value of the original and trigger liability.

Don’t Ignore It Just Because It Feels Small

In my own experience with clients fending off these kinds of claims, sometimes it’s obvious. Other times it’s a bluff. But even bogus claims can cost you if you don’t take them seriously from the beginning.

License It, Link to It, or Leave It

If you didn’t create it or license it, don’t assume it’s fair game. Look for content with clear reuse rights. Better yet – link to the source instead of copying it.

Because if a copyright holder comes after you, your intentions won’t matter. Only your rights will.

Matthew B. Harrison is a media and intellectual property attorney who advises radio hosts, content creators, and creative entrepreneurs. He has written extensively on fair use, AI law, and the future of digital rights. Reach him at Matthew@HarrisonMediaLaw.com or read more at TALKERS.com.

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Salem Partners with America’s Frontline Doctors for Documentary

Salem Media Group is partnering with America’s Frontline Doctors to produce a documentary titled, What Is a Doctor?, that is streaming on SalemNOW. America’s Frontline Doctors founder Dr. Simone Gold is featured in the film that Salem calls an “unapologetic examination of how medicine is being politicized,img threatening free speech, medical autonomy, and the core doctor-patient relationship.” Dr. Gold states, “This is a wake-up call. We’re watching medicine become weaponized against the people it’s meant to serve. This film asks the question every American should be asking: Who does your doctor work for?” SalemNOW general manager Robert Ellis adds, “We’re proud to give a platform to voices willing to stand for truth. This film is essential viewing for anyone who believes medical freedom is worth protecting.”

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Kelly Crull Joins “680 The Fan” Full Time

Dickey Broadcasting names sports journalist and broadcaster Kelly Crull a full-time member of sports talk WCNN, Atlanta 680 The Fan’s on-air staff. Dickey says Crull will serve as a “utility player across theimg company’s media platforms, bringing her energy, expertise, and signature charisma to a wide array of content.” Crull will be full-time co-host of “The Buck Belue Show” and will make regular appearances on “The Locker Room” morning show, in addition to leading efforts to expand Dickey Broadcasting’s digital footprint through original podcast content and cross-platform storytelling. Station president and GM David Dickey says, “We couldn’t be more excited to bring Kelly on board full time. She’s the kind of multi-talented broadcaster that elevates everyone around her. Whether she’s behind the mic, in front of the camera, or developing digital content, Kelly brings a passion and professionalism that align perfectly with our mission to inform, entertain, and connect with sports fans across Georgia and beyond.”

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Salzone Rises to OM at Saga Ithaca

Saga Communications’ Ithaca, New York Cayuga Media Group promotes WHCU-AM news director Joeimg Salzone to operations manager for the 10-station cluster. Salzone will take over for Chris Allinger who is retiring at the end of August. Cayuga Media Group president and GM Chet Osadchey says, “Joe is an incredibly hard-working and knowledgeable broadcast professional. He will be a guiding force in our continued evolution as a local media source.”

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FPF Files Ethics Complaint Against FCC’s Carr

The Freedom of the Press Foundation files an ethics complaint against Federal Communications Commission Chairman Brendan Carr alleging “egregious misconduct.” The complaint was filed with the District of Columbia Court of Appeals’ Office of Disciplinary Counsel and points to Carr’s public statementsimg and actions prior to the Paramount-Skydance merger. Paramount’s CBS agreed to a settlement with President Donald Trump over a Kamala Harris interview on “60 Minutes.” The complaint says, “Everyone from U.S. senators to CBS employees to a dissenting FCC commissioner has said the settlement appears to have been a bribe to grease the wheels for Carr’s FCC to approve the merger. Even putting Paramount aside, Carr has pursued numerous other frivolous and unconstitutional legal proceedings and threatened more of them in furtherance in his efforts to intimidate broadcast licensees to censor themselves and fall in line with Trump’s agenda.” It goes on to say, “Carr’s actions brazenly violate legal and ethical standards that govern the practice of law and public officials, undermining the First Amendment, the FCC’s credibility, and the laws he is trusted to administer. His abuse of his office to force an unwarranted settlement of a private lawsuit is shameful and warrants disbarment.”

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SABO SEZ: Top 40 is Always the Answer

By Walter Sabo
a.k.a. Walter Sterling, Host
WPHT, Philadelphia, “Walter Sterling Every Damn Night”
And TMN syndicated, “Sterling on Sunday”

imgReviewing radio’s challenges:

— Trouble attracting and growing younger demos
— Trouble appealing to youth-oriented advertisers
— Trouble generating excitement in our culture
— Trouble owning a seat in the news media
— Trouble attracting out of college/high school employees
in sales, management on air.

The answer is: Top 40 or, if you must, CHR. The answer has always been Top 40.

The brilliant Allen Shaw, president ABC FM Radio, CEO Beasley Broadcasting, CEO/owner Centennial, said, “And Top 40 will always have an important place in radio because it plays the most popular music therefore it will always have an audience.”

In reviewing Spring Nielsens, it is hard to find a Top 40 station that is #1 6+ in any city. Consider how odd that is. Since 1955 there have been hundreds of Top 40 stations that attracted dominant shares of audience.

No, not audience: fans. Passionate fans because music is passion. New music is more passion. Cultural pebbles between the songs dropped by passionate radio stars compel even more passion.

Big contests. Big promotions. Breaking music trends. Huge voices. Pounding jingles. Prizes: Trips to see Taylor Swift in the studio – in England. A week off from school, on us! Free pizza for 50 of your friends – for a year. A new red, customized Z-93 car in your driveway on your birthday. Ed Sheeran plays your prom! A limo to school on opening day. Big Time Rush sings at your street fair.

Alex Warren writes a song for you – and performs it for you. Gift certificates for CAMEO. The Apple package… an iPhone, iPad and MacBook Air.

Media Buyer: Hop on the station yacht this summer, let’s go for a sunset party cruise. One buyer wins this custom Mustang. Wherever you go on vacation, tab’s on us.

Excited? Radio is good at contesting, better than any other medium. Excitement in thin air is what radio does… well, used to do.

Of course radio is a low choice among fresh grads, 18-24s, and media buyers. Radio stopped making the best radio, stunning, pulsing, sexy, unpredictable. We stopped rolling out the red carpet: Hot, current, daring, dangerous… Top 40.

You were drawn to radio because of Top 40. Make that.

Walter Sabo has been a C Suite action partner for companies such as SiriusXM, Hearst, Press Broadcasting, Gannett, RKO General and many other leading media outlets. His company HITVIEWS, in 2007, was the first to identify and monetize video influencers.. His nightly show “Walter Sterling Every Damn Night” is heard on WPHT, Philadelphia. His syndicated show, “Sterling On Sunday,” from Talk Media Network, airs 10:00 pm-1:00 am ET, and is now in its 10th year of success. He can be reached by email at sabowalter@gmail.com.

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95.5 WSB’s Care-a-Thon Raises $2.1 Million

Last week (7/24-25), Cox Media Group’s news/talk WSB-AM/WSBB-FM, Atlanta hosted the 25th annual “95.5 WSB Care-a-Thon,” benefiting the Aflac Cancer and Blood Disorders Center of Children’s Healthcareimg of Atlanta. And raised an event record of more than $2.1 million. WSB director of operations Ken Charles says, “95.5 WSB has the most generous listeners in the country, without them this is not possible. I am blessed to work with the most passionate, dedicated and hardworking team in the business. I couldn’t be prouder of what we achieved over these incredible and inspirational 38 hours.”

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WWO: Amazon Prime Day Powered by Audio

This week’s blog from Cumulus Media | Westwood One’s Audio Active Group looks at the recent Amazon Prime Day (July 8-11) and audio’s role in marketing the annual sale event. Data by Quantilope reveals a number of takeaways, including: 1) Leading all media in Amazon Prime Day 2025 purchases were AM/FM radio listeners (53%), followed by ad-supported music streaming (47%) and podcast (44%) consumers. Ad-supported audio listeners were more likely to shop Amazon Prime Day than the online video audience, socialimg media users, and linear TV viewers. Ad-supported audio listeners are more likely to be Amazon Prime members, spend more, and were more aware of Amazon Prime Day 2025; 2) Ad-supported audio (AM/FM radio, music streaming, and podcasts) are ideal media platforms for retailers and e-commerce brands: Heavy audio listeners are more likely to shop online. Heavy AM/FM radio and podcast listeners spend more online than TV viewers; 3) AM/FM radio makes your TV better – “20 gets you 50”: A 20% shift of a TV media budget to AM/FM radio generates a +50% increase in campaign reach. Nielsen Media Impact campaign optimizations reveal shifting media weight to AM/FM radio generates significantly more reach, especially among younger 18-49 demographics. AM/FM radio does an extraordinary job in increasing campaign reach among light TV viewers who will not see retailer TV ads; and 4) Audio holiday AM/FM radio campaigns work: Consumers exposed to an Amazon holiday AM/FM radio campaign have higher brand equity (awareness, ad recall, prior purchase, and purchase intent). Nielsen sales effect studies reveal AM/FM radio campaigns for retailers generate significant return on advertising spend: $15 dollars of incremental sales for every dollar of AM/FM radio advertising. See the full bog post here.

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Date and Details Set for 10th Annual Music Industry Reunion in SoCal

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Many readers and subscribers of TALKERS trace their radio industry roots back to the golden days when the radio programming and record promotion businesses were so symbiotic that the major trade publication serving this two-headed conglomeration was actually called Radio & Records: “The Industry’s Newspaper.”

On September 10, 2025, music and radio industry veterans from across the USA will come together at the 10th Annual Music Industry Reunion. The event will again take place at the Sagebrush Cantina in Calabasas, CA. Doors open at 6:30 pm. The Music Industry Reunion prides itself on bringing together the best of the music business from around the world for this special evening of memories, laughter, and hugs. Past reunions in New York and Los Angeles have reunited over 500 industry influencers, industry legends and icons as well as the brightest radio, music, management, publicity, and marketing professionals in the business. Attendees can enjoy hot hors d’oeuvres as well as chips and salsa, along with $5 tequila shots. Additionally, the Sagebrush Cantina’s full menu will be available to purchase.

According to TALKERS publisher Michael Harrison, “For those of us who were lucky enough to be a part of that wild and crazy chapter of pop culture biz history – especially as it played out in Southern California – this is one of the greatest, most beloved industry events of the year… pure history, nostalgia, and fun!”

Advance tickets are $35 (+Eventbrite service processing fee) and available at this link: https://tinyurl.com/mir10th

The luxurious Anza Hotel has King Suites available at a special Music Industry Reunion rate of $118, which includes access to the hotel’s bar, pool, gym, and free parking. It’s just a few minutes’ walk to the event. Use Code: 250911LA10 at 818.222.5300 or follow this link: https://tinyurl.com/mir10hotel

Connect with The Music Industry Reunion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/MusicBusinessReunion The 10th Annual Music Industry Reunion is coordinated by legendary music biz promoters Jon Scott and Kenny Ryback. Jon Scott 818.601.1283 jonpaulscott@gmail.com Kenny Ryback 747.666.5465 kenny.ryback@gmail.com

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Commissioners Differ Starkly on Paramount-Skydance Merger

Last week’s FCC approval of the Paramount-Skydance merger on a 2-1 vote revealed dramatically different takes on the matter from FCC Commissioner Olivia Trusty – who voted for it – and FCC Commissioner Anna Gomez – who voted against. While Trusty issued a statement about the merger positioning it as a winimg for free markets, Gomez called out the FCC’s role and Paramount for “cowardly capitulation.” Trusty said, “This transaction reflects the free market at work, where private investment, not government intervention, is preserving an iconic American media institution. During its review of the transaction, the Commission determined the merger was lawful and would serve the public interest.  This deal brings fresh imgleadership, new capital, and a clear plan to compete with dominant tech platforms.” Gomez stated, “In an unprecedented move, this once-independent FCC used its vast power to pressure Paramount to broker a private legal settlement and further erode press freedom. Once again, this agency is undermining legitimate efforts to combat discrimination and expand opportunity by overstepping its authority and intervening in employment matters reserved for other government entities with proper jurisdiction on these issues. Even more alarming, it is now imposing never-before-seen controls over newsroom decisions and editorial judgment, in direct violation of the First Amendment and the law… The Paramount payout and this reckless approval have emboldened those who believe the government can – and should – abuse its power to extract financial and ideological concessions, demand favored treatment, and secure positive media coverage. It is a dark chapter in a long and growing record of abuse that threatens press freedom in this country.”

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In the Age of Blogs, Podcasts, and Substack, Defamation Law is Asking: How Public is Too Public?

By Matthew B. Harrison
TALKERS, VP/Associate Publisher
Harrison Media Law, Senior Partner
Goodphone Communications, Executive Producer

imgMark Walters didn’t expect to lose private-figure legal protections over something he never talked about – especially since the thing he never talked about never even happened. A nationally syndicated radio host and outspoken Second Amendment advocate, Walters is publicly known, but in a specific lane. He never discussed nonprofits, financial misconduct, or legal ethics. Yet when ChatGPT hallucinated a claim that he had embezzled from a charity, a Georgia court ruled he was a public figure – and dismissed his defamation suit. 

The logic? Walters had a platform, a following, and a history of public commentary. That was enough. The court held that his general media presence elevated him to public-figure status, even though the allegedly defamatory statement had nothing to do with the subject matter of his actual work. wasn’t defamed about what he’s known for—but his visibility was used against him anyway.

The case didn’t just shut down a complaint. It opened a wider question: who qualifies as a public figure in the modern media era – and when does that designation apply to topics you never touched?

Mark Walters Inspired editorial cartoon for exclusive use by TALKERS


Why Public Figure Status Matters

Defamation law protects people from false, reputation-harming statements – but not equally. A private figure needs only to show that the speaker was negligent. A public figure, by contrast, must prove actual malice – that the speaker knew the statement was false or recklessly disregarded the truth.

This high standard, first articulated in New York Times v. Sullivan, was intended to protect freedom of speech and the press. But in the age of digital publishing and algorithmic reach, it’s increasingly used to deny protection to people who never thought they were stepping into the spotlight.

What Makes Someone a Public Figure?

Courts recognize two main categories:

– General-purpose public figures are household names – people famous across all topics and platforms.

– Limited-purpose public figures are individuals who have voluntarily entered public controversy or engaged in widespread public commentary on specific issues.

Here’s where the modern problem begins.

Thanks to blogs, newsletters, podcasts, and social media, it’s easier than ever to participate in public dialogue – and harder than ever to keep that participation confined to just one topic.

Post a viral thread on immigration?

Host a weekly podcast about school choice?

Weigh in on TikTok about local politics?

You may have just stepped into “limited-purpose public figure” territory – whether you intended to or not.

The Walters v. OpenAI Case – Now the Law

In Walters v. OpenAI, the court didn’t question whether the claim was false – only whether Walters could meet the public figure burden of proof. The court held that he could not. Despite the fact that he had never discussed the subject matter in question, his general visibility was enough to require that he prove actual malice. And he couldn’t.

The decision came with no trial, no settlement – just a dismissal. It now stands as legal precedent: having a public voice on one issue may cost you private-figure protections on others.

Microphone, Meet Microscope

This shift affects:

Independent journalists

– Podcast hosts

– Niche content creators

– Local activists with modest but vocal platforms

They may not feel “public,” but courts increasingly view them that way. And once that threshold is crossed, the burden in a defamation case becomes dramatically harder to meet.

he more you speak publicly—even on one topic—the more legally exposed you are everywhere else.

That wasn’t the intent of Sullivan. But in today’s fragmented, always-on media culture, visibility leaks- and so do legal thresholds.

Final Takeaway

You don’t need to be famous to be “public.” You just need to be findable.

Whether you’re behind a mic, a blog, or a camera, your platform may elevate you into public figure status – and bring defamation law’s toughest burdens with it. If you’re defamed, you’ll have to prove the speaker acted with knowing falsehood. If you’re doing the speaking, your target’s legal classification could determine how costly a misstep becomes.

In 2025, every microphone is also a microscope. Know what the law sees before you go live.

Matthew B. Harrison is a media and intellectual property attorney who advises radio hosts, content creators, and creative entrepreneurs. He has written extensively on fair use, AI law, and the future of digital rights. Reach him at Matthew@HarrisonMediaLaw.com or read more at TALKERS.com.

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New Frequency, Same Mission: iHeartMedia Norfolk Announces the Debut of the New BIN 92.1 FM, Norfolk’s Black Information Network

iHeartMedia Norfolk announced today (7/25) the debut of BIN 92.1 FM, Norfolk’s Black Information Network, effective immediately.  The Black Information Network has transitioned from 105.3 FM (WNOH) to its new home at 92.1 FM (WHBT), where it will continue delivering what is described as “nonstop, reliable news coverage shaped by the Black community.”  According to iHeartMedia Norfolk market president, Denene Moore, “Listeners can count on the same high-quality journalism, in-depth reporting, and culturally relevant storytelling—now on 92.1 FM and available on the iHeartRadio app.”  Moore continues, “BIN has become a vital voice in communities across the country, and we’re proud to continue that trusted news and perspective here in Norfolk. This move ensures that our listeners have access to the stories that matter most, told through a lens that reflects their experiences and voices.”

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Cumulus to Release Q2 Numbers

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“The Big 89” Returns (for Two Hours): WLS, Chicago to Pay Tribute to its Music Radio Glory Days

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Tomorrow night 7/26) listeners can hear “WLS Unwound: Personalities of the MusicRadio Years.” A gathering of air talent from the legendary days of top 40 radio will get-together in the WLS, Chicago lakefront studios to talk about the glory days of when WLS was the Midwest powerhouse for hits and known as “The Rock of Chicago!”  Scheduled to appear: Tommy Edwards, Chuck Knapp, Catherine Johns, Chuck Buell, Jim Kerr and others who may just happen to drop by. This exciting radio event will be hosted by WLS historian Scott Childers, who literally wrote the book on the legendary radio station, now a major talk outlet. Art Vuolo will be archiving the show on video, while Ted Gorden Smucker, Bill Shannon, Tim Larson, Travis Bravo, and Kipper McGee make it all work in harmony. The broadcast will take place Saturday night (tomorrow) on WLS-AM 890 at 10:00 pm CDT

WLS is also available online at wlsam.com.

Lots of great audio clips will also be included. Click below to hear one of the many great promos that WLS is featuring this week. https://app.box.com/s/zyu3elud2u11zrlqy8gxdq3zyy5g80du

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TALKERS News Notes

Innes to Host Mornings in Detroit. Radio personality Josh Innes, who has worked in the sports talk format in Philadelphia and Houston, is the new morning drive host at iHeartMedia’s rock WLLZ, Detroit. The station says, “‘The Josh Innes Show’ will wake up Detroit listeners with an interactive show that combines live callers, opinions and commentary on a wide variety of topics. From sports to pop culture and local interests, Josh Innes brings a fresh and engaging approach that is both fun and uniquely Detroit.

iHeartMedia Q2 Financial Report Announced. iHeartMedia, Inc will issue financial results for the quarter ending June 30, 2025 on Monday, August 11. The company will conduct a conference call at 4:30 pm ET, following the release of its earnings announcement, to discuss its financial results and business outlook.

Urban One to Present Q2 Operating Results. Urban One announces it will reveal the operating results from the second quarter of 2025 on Tuesday, August 19 and will hold a conference call for investors, analysts, and other interested parties at 10:00 am ET that morning.

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NPR’s Edith Chapin to Step Down

NPR announces that editor-in-chief and acting chief content officer Edith Chapin will step down from her position with the public media organization this fall. NPR says this comes days after Congress, driven largelyimg by President Trump’s claims of liberal bias at NPR, voted to strip public broadcasting of all federal funding. But Chapin says the choice was hers and not driven by the action in Congress. Chapin says, “I have had two big executive jobs for two years, and I want to take a break. I want to make sure my performance is always top-notch for the company. NPR CEO Katherine Maher says, “Edith has been an indispensable partner during my first year at NPR, a steady leader for a large part of this organization, and a fantastic collaborator as a member of the executive team.”

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SABO SEZ: Star Search – They’re Out There!

By Walter Sabo
a.k.a. Walter Sterling, Host
WPHT, Philadelphia, “Walter Sterling Every Damn Night”
and TMN syndicated, “Sterling on Sunday”

imgConventional industry wisdom: “If our morning star leaves, we’re dead. How could we replace them?”

First, loosen up the criteria. There are actual conversations taking place right now at an AC station between executives afraid to hire a great country jock because she has never “done AC.” Let that nonsense go and pay attention to the qualities of a star.

Consulting work brought regular demands to find star talent. Disruptive. Audience builders. Talent can be found anywhere, everywhere when we put down the notion of an ideal resume.

FAVORITE STORY: I was on the 23rd Street bus a few years ago. It was packed. There was a woman on her cell phone giving advice to a caller about living with a man prior to marriage. She had a big personality, easy to hear. New Yorker after New Yorker listened to this intriguing conversation and then… passenger after passenger started to express their opinions to this passenger, on a New York City bus, at rush hour. By the time she had to get off, half the bus was participating with her in her private conversation.

I wrote her a note on my card and asked her to please get in touch with me.

She did. We had coffee for one hour. It seemed like five minutes. Her life story was intriguing, overwhelming, timeless.

Anna Smith. “Anna on the Bus.” I had her in the production room at Audacy in New York and tough big city radio people gathered around the studio and whispered to me, “She should have her own show.”

Anna tells compelling stories: Her father was an 18-wheeler. He would arrive first with his deliveries. Dispatchers usually sent him to the back of the line because he was Black. After waiting for hours to dock, he was fined for late deliveries.

Anna lost several of her seven children to disease and shootings. No anger. Just “the way of the world.” Stories like that. She’s been on my show many times. She’s a radio star.

“Anna on the Bus.”

Walter Sabo has been a C Suite action partner for companies such as SiriusXM, Hearst, Press Broadcasting, Gannett, RKO General and many other leading media outlets. His company HITVIEWS, in 2007, was the first to identify and monetize video influencers.. His nightly show “Walter Sterling Every Damn Night” is heard on WPHT, Philadelphia. His syndicated show, “Sterling On Sunday,” from Talk Media Network, airs 10:00 pm-1:00 am ET, and is now in its 10th year of success. He can be reached by email at sabowalter@gmail.com.

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Lenz to Lead iHeartMedia Milwaukee

iHeartMedia promotes Dan Lenz market president for its Milwaukee operations. Lenz has been serving asimg SVP of sales for the station group. This move comes after the recent retirement of Jeff Tyler. iHeartMedia division president Nick Gnau comments, “Over the past two years, Dan has consistently demonstrated exceptional performance and a deep understanding of the market, earning him this well-deserved promotion to market president. His leadership as the sales lead has been instrumental to our success, and we are confident that both our team and partners will benefit even more from his expanded role.”

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FCC’s Trusty Comments on CPB Funding Recission

Newly confirmed FCC commissioner Olivia Trusty issues a statement about the recent recission of funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. She states, “I am mindful of the long-standing role that the Corporation for Public Broadcasting has played in supporting educational and cultural programming acrossimg the country, particularly in rural and underserved areas. However, Americans are increasingly skeptical of media institutions, with trust in media at historic lows. That reality cannot be ignored. It is not unreasonable for taxpayers to expect transparency, accountability, and balance from any outlet receiving federal support. Nor is it unreasonable for Congress to reassess whether public funding models established in a different media era remain justified today, especially when Americans have more access to more content from more sources than ever before. This action does not signal the end of public media.  Instead, it presents an opportunity for innovation, partnerships, and more localized decision-making. As a regulator, I will continue to support policies that promote access and competition in media, without presupposing that one model of funding or content creation should be immune from public scrutiny or reform.”

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When One Clip Cuts Two Ways: How Copyright and Defamation Risks Collide

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By Matthew B. Harrison
TALKERS, VP/Associate Publisher
Harrison Media Law, Senior Partner
Goodphone Communications, Executive Producer

imgA radio (or video podcast) host grabs a viral clip, tosses in some sharp commentary, and shares it online. The goal? Make some noise. The result? A takedown notice for copyright infringement – and then a letter threatening a defamation suit.

Sound far-fetched? It’s not. In today’s media world, copyright misuse and defamation risks often run on parallel tracks – and sometimes crash into each other. They come from different areas of law, but creators are finding themselves tangled up in both over the same piece of content.

Copyright Protects Ownership. Defamation Protects Reputation

It’s easy to think of copyright and defamation as two separate beasts. One guards creative work. The other shields reputation. But when creators use or edit someone else’s content – especially for commentary, parody, or critique – both risks can hit at once.

Take Smith v. Summit Entertainment LLC (2007). Smith wrote an original song. Summit Entertainment slapped him with a false DMCA takedown notice, claiming copyright they didn’t actually own. Smith fought back, suing not just for the bogus takedown but also for defamation, arguing that Summit’s public accusations hurt his reputation. The court said both claims could go forward.

That case shows just how easily copyright claims and defamation threats can pile up when bad information meets bad behavior.

Murphy v. Millennium Radio: A Close Call with a Clear Message

In Murphy v. Millennium Radio Group LLC, a New Jersey radio station scanned a photographer’s work – with his credit – and posted it online without permission. That alone triggered a copyright claim. But the hosts didn’t stop there. They mocked the photographer on-air, which sparked a defamation lawsuit.

Even though the copyright and defamation claims came from different actions – using the photo without permission and trash-talking the photographer – they landed in the same legal fight. It’s a reminder that separate problems can quickly become one big headache.

Why This Double Threat Matters

Fair Use Isn’t a Free Pass on Defamation. Even if you have a solid fair use argument, that won’t protect you if your edits or commentary twist facts or attack someone unfairly.
Public Comments Can Double Your Trouble. The second you speak publicly about how you’re using content – whether you’re bragging about rights you don’t have or taking a shot at someone – you risk adding a defamation claim on top of an IP dispute.
Smart Lawyers Play Both Angles. Plaintiffs know the playbook. They’ll use copyright claims for takedown leverage and defamation claims for reputational damage – sometimes in the same demand letter.
FCC Rules Don’t Cover This. It doesn’t matter if you’re FCC-regulated or a podcaster on your own. These risks come from civil law – and they’re coming for everyone.

The Takeaway

The overlap between copyright and defamation isn’t just a legal footnote – it’s a growing reality. In a world of viral clips, reaction videos, and borrowed content, creators need to watch how they frame and comment on what they use, just as much as whether they have permission to use it in the first place.

Because when one clip cuts two ways, you could take a hit from both directions.

Matthew B. Harrison is a media and intellectual property attorney who advises radio hosts, content creators, and creative entrepreneurs. He has written extensively on fair use, AI law, and the future of digital rights. Reach him at Matthew@HarrisonMediaLaw.com or read more at TALKERS.com.

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Report: 1010 WINS Reporters Demand Fair Deal from Audacy

As reported by Deadline, the journalists working at Audacy’s all-news WINS, New York represented by Writers Guild of America East have presented a petition to management demanding it “negotiate a fair deal” as its current deal expires Monday (7/22). The demand focuses on worker safety. The letter says, “We askimg that Audacy bargain respectfully and in good faith as we work to improve our salaries, benefits, pathways to promotion, workplace safety, remote work options, preserve severance, and protect against the growing threat of artificial intelligence.” Regarding the issue of safety, WGAE president Lisa Takeuchi Cullen says, “1010 WINS runs 24/7 and requires people to commute to the office at all hours. The station’s journalists have been threatened and even attacked. Audacy needs to take responsibility for the safety of its employees and our members. This is one of the many issues that management still needs to address in a fair and equitable contract.” See the Deadline story here.

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Carr: FCC to Address Public Safety

Federal Communications Commission chairman Brendan Carr, in a blog post, says the FCC is beginning to address public safety as part of its Build America Agenda. He says, “In three weeks, we will vote to begin a ground-up re-examination of the Emergency Alert Systems (EAS).  EAS sends life-saving information using TV and radio outlets, and our Wireless Emergency Alerts (WEA) distribute the emergency notices weimg receive on our mobile phones.  With underlying frameworks that are 31 and 13 years old respectively, we think it’s time to explore if structural changes to these systems are needed, with an eye towards making sure we are leveraging the latest technology to save lives. Similarly, we will also vote to initiate a review of our system for collecting real-time data on network outages and restoration during and after major disasters.  Since its inception in 2007, our Disaster Information Reporting System (DIRS) has proven to be a valuable tool for collecting actionable information to help with recovery efforts.  While the DIRS reports are valuable, they can be time-consuming to produce, drawing resources away from responding to an ongoing disaster.  The Commission will vote on reforms to streamline DIRS to make sure that its benefits outweigh its burdens. We’ll close our August meeting by removing unnecessary regulations and injecting common sense across the Commission’s policies—critical features to streamline the implementation of our Build America Agenda.” See the full blog post here.

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Salem and Former Host Settle in Dominion Voting Suit

Salem Media Group and former KNUS, Denver talk host Randy Corporon have settled with former Dominion Voting Systems employee Eric Coomer who filed suit against the them for defamation. Courthouse News reports that the suit stemmed from Corporon’s radio interview with a local businessman who claimed he heardimg “Eric from Dominion saying he was going to make sure President Trump lost the 2020 election.” That was picked up and broadcast by OAN network and further repeated by the Trump campaign and Trump attorneys Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell. Coomer also sued MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell and won a $2.3 million judgement. Courthouse News also reports that Coomer is also suing Salem personality Eric Metaxas who recently filed with the court to settle and is awaiting approval from the court. Interestingly, Corporon – a practicing attorney – is representing Gateway Pundit owner James Hoft who is also being sued by Coomer for defamation. That case is scheduled to go to trial in April of 2026. See the Courthouse News coverage here.

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NPR Stays Atop Triton Digital Podcast Ranker

Triton Digital releases its U.S. Podcast Ranker for June (June 2 – 29) based on weekly average downloadsimg and NPR’s most popular podcasts – “NPR News Now” and “Up First” – maintain their first and second-place finishes, respectively. Changes of note from May to June include Salem Podcast Network’s “The Charlie Kirk Show” rising three places to #5, Cumulus Podcast Network’s “VINCE” rising one spot to #10, and iHeartRadio’s “Clay Travis & Buck Sexton” falling two places to #16. See the complete ranker here.