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Erick Erickson Partners with KRMG on Listener Event

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Yesterday afternoon (11/7) syndicated talk show host Erick Erickson partnered with 102.3 KRMG  (KRMG-FM) for a listener event in Tulsa, OK. The casual and intimate meet and greet experience was held at the We Street Ice Center and was open to KRMG listeners and Erickson fans. Leading up to the event, listeners had an opportunity to submit questions for Erickson to address during the event.  He touched on some of the questions before taking pictures and interacting with listeners. “This was a great opportunity to get to Oklahoma.  Working with all my affiliates to be present and local with them is a core part of how I do radio,” Erickson tells TALKERS.  “KRMG turned out a giant crowd and, just after this election outcome, it made for a great time.”  The KRMG Erick Erickson Experience brought in about 300 people.  “The turnout at an event like this shows the influence Erick Erickson has in our market and we are thrilled to be able to offer this one-of-a-kind experience to our listeners,” says Levi May, KRMG director of branding and programming.  Erickson broadcasts on KRMG weekdays 11:00 am – 2:00 pm. Learn more at krmg.com.

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Yesterday’s (11/6) Top News/Talk Media Stories

ELECTION POST MORTEM:  “Monday Morning Quarterback” analysis of the presidential election was dominant on the top talk media stories list yesterday (11/7) as the dust slowly settles on an industry that just ran a marathon.  Other top issues of discussion emanating from that included abortion rights, the economy, media bias, war and rising tensions in the Middle East and Central Europe, and the ever-present migrant/border crisis according to ongoing TALKERS research.

 

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Motor Racing Anchor Jeff Striegle to Take the Checkered Flag on His NASCAR Career

As NASCAR crowns a Premier Series Champion this Sunday, November 10th at Phoenix Raceway, Jeff Striegle, Motor Racing Network lead anchor, will sign off for the last time capping a 27-year career with the network. Striegle has witnessed some incredible moments with MRN including in recent years the introduction of the Busch Clash at the L.A. Coliseum and Chicago Street Course, the closest finish in the history of the sport just this spring at Kansas Speedway, but for him “It’s hard to pick out just one racingim moment.” Striegle tells TALKERS, “There are so many amazing memories. For me, what I will miss most are the people. Everywhere we go, we meet wonderful people, great race fans that tell us, ‘We have been listening to MRN for years…’ they always want to thank us for what we do. Without the fans, there would be no need for the Motor Racing Network.”  “Throughout his time with the network Jeff has lent his talents to a number of positions around the racetrack before finding his way to the broadcast booth in 2013,” said MRN president Chris Schwartz. “His broadcast career began like so many others by working the public address booth providing the soundtrack for thousands of fans at his local racetrack, in Jeff’s case Berlin Raceway in Marne, Michigan. He has been involved with calling some of the sport’s most iconic moments, and it is fitting that the checkered flag will fall on his broadcast career by calling the final laps of another NASCAR Cup Series Championship.”  Motor Racing Network will have flag to flag coverage of the NASCAR Cup Series Championship Race Sunday, November 10th beginning at 2pm ET. The NASCAR Cup Series Championship Race will be carried LIVE on approximately 300 radio station partners across the United States, the NASCAR mobile app, and at MRN.com.  For affiliation in your area, contact Bob Quick, director, radio partnerships & traffic at Motor Racing Network by email at bquick@mrn.com or by calling 704-262-6713.

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Boston Sports Talk Legend Fred Toucher on the Demise of His Old Partner’s New Show: “I Hate Him”

In an example of just how contentious sports talk radio can be, long-time Boston sports talk radio host Fred Toucher did not hold back in slamming his old partner, Rich Shertenlieb, whose new show was cancelled this week. Fred Toucher ID (From Seminar 2024)Toucher, who now co-hosts “Toucher & Hardy“ on 98.5 The Sports Hub, WBZ-FM, Boston took some time on this morning’s show (11/5) to address ”the elephant in the room.” Shertenlieb‘s new show on local classic rock outlet WZLX had been canceled after five months, and Toucher didn’t seem to have any sympathy for his former partner.  In a story by reporter Nick O’ Malley posted on the news site MassLive.com, “I hate him,” Toucher said. “So, I was happy yesterday when I heard about this. But I was a little disheartened that he still carries none of the responsibility and takes none of the blame and still just can’t be honest.”   Toucher and Shertenlieb co-hosted the “Toucher & Rich” show from 2009-2023, working together to produce one of Boston’s most popular morning shows. However, the show ran into issues in 2023. Toucher missed time due to personal and physical issues, including a stretch of time at an alcohol detox facility. In November, parent company Beasley Media said in a statement that Shertenlieb declined to accept a new contract.  On Monday, Shertenlieb announced that he was “disappointed” that his show was being canceled after just five months. The radio host complained that management forced him to “alter the format” of the show by adding music.  However, Toucher noted Tuesday that Shertenlieb’s show was a “ratings disaster.”  “He not only did not bring in a new audience to that show, he alienated – based on ratings – their entire existing audience,” Toucher said. “He had like a third of the ratings that they got jockless in the morning … Yeah, management might have been a little concerned.”  Toucher said that critics can paint the picture of his reaction however they like. But he did note that he and co-host Jon Wallach say they weren’t alone in celebrating the demise of Shertenlieb’s show.  To see the complete article in MassLive.com, please click here.

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NYTimes: “Interview” With a Dead Luminary on Polish Radio Station Ignites Backlash Against A.I.

According to an article published yesterday (11/3) in The New York Times written by reporter Andrew Higgins, when a state-funded Polish radio station canceled a weekly show featuring interviews with theater directors and writers, the host of the program went quietly, resigned to media industry realities of cost-cutting and shifting tastes away from highbrow culture. But his resignation turned to fury in late October after his former employer, Off Radio Krakow, aired what it billed as a “unique interview” with an icon of Polish culture, Wislawa Szymborska, the winner of the 1996 Nobel Prize for Literature. The terminated radio host, Lukasz Zaleski, said he would have invited Szymborska on his morning show himself, but never did for a simple reason: She died in 2012. The station used artificial intelligence to generate the recent interview – a dramatic and, to many, outrageous example of technology replacing humans, even dead ones. Zaleski conceded that the computer-generated version of the poet’s distinctive voice was convincing. “It was very, very good,” he said, but “I went to her funeral, so I know for sure that she is dead. ”The technology-enabled resurrection of the dead poet was part of a novel experiment by Off Radio Krakow, an arm of Poland’s public broadcasting system in the southern city of Krakow. The aim was to test whether A.I. could revive a moribund local station that had “close to zero” listeners, according to the head of public radio in Krakow. The station also planned from-the-grave interviews with other dead people, including Jozef Pilsudski, Poland’s leader when it regained its independence in 1918. Novelty value – and a storm of public outrage – worked to bolster Off Radio Krakow’s audience, which the head of Radio Krakow said grew to 8,000 overnight from just a handful of people after the introduction of three A.I.-generated Generation Z presenters – Emilia, 20, Jakub, 22, and Alex, 23, each of whom had a computer-generated photograph and biography on the station’s website. Less welcome than the audience surge, however, has been a barrage of abuse directed at the public broadcasting system and accusations that it was sacrificing humans on the altar of technology.  To read the entire article published yesterday in The New York Times, please click here.

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WMAL’s Larry O’ Connor Interacts with Hillsdale Radio Curriculum

Larry and Scot

TALKERS Heavy Hundred radio star Larry O’Connor just wrapped up nearly two weeks of shows from the WRFH studios on the campus of Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan. He hosted his “O’Connor & Company” morning program on Newstalk 105.9 WMAL in Washington, DC, as he served as Eugene C. Pulliam Distinguished Fellow in Journalism. Larry also produced his daily Townhall streaming show “LARRY” from the complex. While at Hillsdale, he taught a one-credit class for its journalism students, “Broadcasting and Podcasting,” and also delivered a public lecture entitled “The Media and the 2024 Election.” Video of that lecture can be found hereScot Bertram, general manager, WRFH/Radio Free Hillsdale 101.7 FM tells TALKERS, “I was happy to play a small role in making this incredible show happen every day for listeners in our nation’s capital and around the country. It was a real pleasure to watch this well-oiled machine operate, led by Larry, executive producer Heather Hunter, and technical producer Michael Shelton. Our journalism students learned a lot from observing these shows and having the opportunity to talk with Larry and receive in-person advice.”  Pictured above: Larry O’ Connor (l) and Scot Bertram (r) at Hillsdale. (Photo by Austin Thomason.)

 

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SABO SEZ: Blame TiVo

By Walter Sabo
A.K.A. Walter Sterling, Host
Sterling Every Damn Night, WPHT, Philadelphia
Sterling On Sunday, TMN

Walter M. SterlingTake advantage of the new media order. Initially, TiVo was a hit because you could pause live TV and go to the bathroom whenever you wanted. Bathroom breaks while watching live TV was a revelation. As you were going to the bathroom, your relationship with media was being re-wired in your brain. In a matter of months, you were able to watch what you wanted, whenever you wanted. DECADES of TV scheduling strategies became anachronistic. It’s November. Do you know when your favorite shows are airing on TV? No! No need you’ll watch them whenever you want!

Now On-demand is the rule of all media.

Liberation from traditional formalities has infiltrated every aspect of our day.. TMZ launched with this editorial rule: Cover NO scheduled events. No press conferences. TMZ cameras lurk in the parking lots and valet tents to capture stars off guard, candid, authentic. Make-up artists and movie set hairdressers, not PR teams, are their primary news sources. By comparison, “Entertainment Tonight” and “Hard Copy” who are obligated to the PR industry look phony, stiff, staged.

Warren Buffet for decades modeled how to behave like the country’s richest man. Stable, sane, professorial. But today’s richest man, Elon Musk is running million dollar a day giveaways to registered voters. He wears t-shirts, dances on stage and has how many kids?

Hoda Kotb quits the “Today Show” …THE TODAY SHOW and no one cares. The quest for a new co-anchor captures no one’s imagination. Compared with the impact of online influencers, TikTok videos and on-demand TV, the “Today Show” looks anachronistic.

A relic.

Four years ago, the millions of workers staying at home would have never thought freedom from the office commute would be possible. Now they can’t imagine why they have to go to the office – because they are at work, on their kitchen table.

Don’t become BLOCKBUSTER. Today’s trends are becoming surging rivers of thought and behavior. Winning employers will embrace their colleagues with recognition of these changes. Rather than bribing and begging workers back to the old office, they will amp up the tools and support to allow employees to easily produce from anywhere they wish. That means providing better computers, phones, software, and new systems for recognizing performance. Getting-in-early just isn’t going to mean anything. Getting-it-done will be prized.

About your talk station: Three- and four-hour blocks of – BLOCK PROGRAMMING – is the past. Seamless is the future. Seamless talk programming, format driven rather than “my show” driven will grow cume and maximize PPM technology. Hosts will present ideas and entertainment, with other hosts and contributors using techniques that allow for tune-in at any time.

 Consultant Walter Sabo A.K.A. Walter M Sterling has a nightly show “Sterling Every Damn Night” heard on WPHT, Philadelphia 9:00 pm – 12:00 midnight. His syndicated show, “Sterling On Sunday,” from Talk Media Network, airs Sundays 10:00 pm – 1:00 am ET, and is now in its 10th year of success. He can be reached by email at waltermsterling@gmail.com or Sabowalter@gmail.com.

 

 

 

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TALKERS News Notes

WURDWURD Radio Endorses Kamala Harris for President.  For the first time in its 20+ year history, Philadelphia’s only Black-owned radio station, WURD Radio has endorsed a political candidate — Kamala Harris for President of the United States. Prompted in part by the decision from owners of the Los Angeles Times and The Washington Post to overrule planned endorsements by their editorial boards, sources at the station tell TALKERS, this decision underscores the importance of independent media ownership. From the endorsement: “Our founder, Walter P. Lomax Jr., M.D., understood that the media has the power to shape perceptions, images, narratives and, most importantly in this election, to tell the truth. He understood that the media can demonize or humanize, destroy or exalt, diminish or elevate. Dr. Lomax knew that mainstream media often marginalizes, caricatures and maligns Black people. WURD is in a unique position to speak honestly and emphatically about what matters most to our community because we are independently owned.”  To read the entire text of the endorsement, please click here.

 

imSiriusXM Tips Off College Basketball Coverage with 74 Games on Opening Night, November 4.  SiriusXM will deliver college basketball fans an extensive schedule of live games throughout the 2023-24 college basketball season, starting with a slate of 74 women’s and men’s matchups to choose from when the season tips off this Monday (11/4).  The men’s schedule includes all 19 teams from the Associated Press Top 25 that are in action on Monday night, including the season’s first matchup of Top 25 ranked teams – #8 Baylor @ #6 Gonzaga (11:30 pm ET). The opening day schedule of women’s games on SiriusXM includes 12 teams from the Associated Press Top 25 and features a couple of Top 25 matchups – #20 Ole Miss @ #3 USC (noon ET) and #5 UCLA @ #17 Louisville (2:30 pm ET).  Throughout the season SiriusXM listeners will get access to dozens of game broadcasts each week involving teams from the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, ACC, Pac-12, Big East and more.

 

NewsMaxNewsmax Launches in France on Molotov.  Newsmax TV, one of America’s most popular news channels, just launched on Molotov, one of France’s leading TV platforms, as U.S. voters go to the polls to pick their next president.  The Newsmax channel went live on Molotov’s platform on October 24, 2024, expanding its global footprint with 19 million Molotov users in France and French-speaking territories.  Molotov is one of France’s main TV services offering streaming television to internet users across the nation and its territories. Molotov subscribers can tune to Newsmax via the platform’s free tier.

 

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Cumulus Media Reports Operating Results for the Third Quarter 2024

Cumulus Media LogoCumulus Media Inc. today (11/4) announced operating results for the three and nine months ended September 30, 2024. Mary G. Berner, president and CEO of Cumulus Media, said, “During the third quarter, we delivered revenue and EBITDA in-line with pacing commentary and analyst estimates. Given the market challenges, we maintained our focus on what we can control. Specifically, we continued investing to drive growth in our digital businesses, including in digital marketing services which increased revenue nearly 40% in the quarter; capitalizing on areas of improvement in national and political ad spending; maximizing operating cash flow; and improving operating leverage through ongoing expense reductions.” Berner continued, “Looking forward, the advertising environment remains uncertain. Nonetheless, Cumulus has a valuable set of assets with which to navigate that uncertainty including: profitable and fast-growing digital businesses; a vast national platform that can reach audiences whenever and wherever they choose to listen; extensive feet-on-the-street local sales capabilities which allow us to walk product through the door; premium programming with particular strength in sports and news/talk; an extensive untapped audio library; and a leadership team with a strong track record of expense management and disciplined stewardship of capital. As we continue to execute against our priorities, we see many paths for leveraging these assets to maximize the value they produce for our shareholders.”

Q3 Key Highlights:

Posted total net revenue of $203.6 million, a decline of 1.8% year-over-year

Generated digital revenue of $40.0 million, up 7.5% year-over-year

     • Grew digital marketing services by 38% driven by an increase in new customers, improved customer retention and higher average order size

     •  Increased number of radio-only customers who also bought digital marketing services by 32% year-over-year

     •  Increased digital revenue to 20% of total company revenue

  Recorded net loss of $10.3 million compared to net income of $2.7 million in Q3 2023 and Adjusted EBITDA(1) of $24.1 million compared to $26.9 million in Q3 2023

  Generated $3.9 million of cash from operations 1

  Reported total debt of $673.0 million, total debt at maturity of $642.1 million, and net debt less total unamortized discount of $590.0 million at September 30, 2024, including total debt due in 2026 of $23.9 million.

For further information and the full report, please contact: Cumulus Media Inc. Investor Relations Department IR@cumulus.com 404-260-6600.

 

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Thanks for the Ride!

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Combining the fact that the presidential election is just five days away with today (10/31) being Halloween and “garbage” having become a talking point for both sides  … ever the showman, Salem Radio Network talk host Mike Gallagher displays the Halloween costume he donned for today’s national broadcast – keying off former President Donald Trump’s appearance last night in Wisconsin in a garbage truck.  Of Trump, Gallagher declares:  “There’s never been a more compelling political figure in the history of our country. Every American – and certainly talk show host – owes Donald Trump a debt of gratitude for the ride we’re on.”

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TALKERS Legal Series on Fair Use (Part 6): The Law in Modern and Complex Situations

By Matthew B. Harrison
TALKERS, VP/Associate Publisher
Harrison Media Law, Senior Partner
Goodphone Communications, Executive Producer

Matthew B. Harrison, Esq.This sixth installment in our ongoing series on fair use focuses on the application of the law in modern and complex scenarios.

Using audio or video clips created by others often involves complex copyright considerations, especially as fair use law doesn’t automatically protect unauthorized use of media content. Cases of podcasting and talk show infringement have shown that even short clips can trigger copyright issues if they’re used in a way that substitutes the original work or diminishes its market value. It certainly can trigger flags when scanned by an algorithm.

Creators often and mistakenly believe they can legally use short clips if they’re under a specific length (often thought to be 30 seconds), but in reality, no such rule exists. Even brief clips can infringe if they are used without transforming the content or if they impact the original work’s market potential. In this vein, legal experts recommend that podcasters and media creators obtain clear permissions or licenses when using audio clips from other shows or content sources. This is especially pertinent in podcasting, where fair use is limited and can quickly lead to legal complications without the proper usage guidelines or transformative context, such as commentary or criticism.

For example, in Napster-related cases, where the focus was initially on music, courts have generally ruled against using protected content, focusing on whether the use directly impacts the market or presents a substitute for the original work. Similarly, podcasters have faced claims when broadcasting segments of popular music or clips without the required permissions, even when they used only a few seconds. To mitigate risks, media creators should consider alternatives like royalty-free audio sources or secure direct permission from copyright owners, particularly when using media that does not contribute new, critical commentary to avoid copyright liability.

Several recent copyright infringement cases have involved YouTubers and podcasters. Some cases focus on using music without obtaining necessary licenses. For example, podcasters must often secure more than just a basic ASCAP or BMI license to use music tracks, as these don’t cover all usage rights. Failing to do so has led to infringement claims against podcasters who assume that crediting a musician or using only a few seconds of a track falls under fair use, which is not always the case. Many amateur podcasters and content creators mistakenly think brief use is permissible, overlooking the need for comprehensive music licensing to avoid legal issues.

Another example is the widely reported allegations of copyright infringement in the true crime podcast sphere. Shows like “Crime Junkie” faced accusations of copying research verbatim from other sources without proper credit, highlighting the broader issue of plagiarism and copyright misuse in podcasting. Many true crime podcasts rely heavily on sources without clear attribution, leading to disputes and potential litigation due to copyright and ethical concerns. The decentralized nature of podcasting platforms makes enforcement challenging, though the legal stakes continue to rise with the medium’s growth.

These cases underscore the importance of understanding and securing permissions in podcasting and online media, especially as the medium becomes more professionalized and competitive.

Media attorney, Matthew B. Harrison is VP/associate publisher, TALKERS; Senior Partner, Harrison Media Law; and executive producer, Goodphone Communications.  He is available for private consultation and media industry contract representation. He can be reached by phone at 724-484-3529 or email at matthew@harrisonmedialaw.com

 

 

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TALKERS News Notes

Remote News Service Continues Growth – Pacific Northwest.  Remote News Service (RNS), a live and localized news network providing hyper targeted, and custom news/traffic remotely, announces the addition of three new stations to its client list. Lotus Communications Seattle joins Remote News Service adding Northwest News Radio KNWN 1000/97.7, HANK 101.5, and Talk Radio 570 KVI. Frank Lenzi, news director for KNWN said “We are excited about our new partnership with Remote News Service. Their traffic anchors provide our listeners with the top-notch, real-time traffic information for which they have come to rely on us for generations.”  Remote News Service owner Lesley Lotto said “We are thrilled to welcome Lotus Communications, which has such a great reputation in the industry, to the RNS family. This year has been one of tremendous growth and these stations magnify the quality of client stations and markets we’ve been able to attract. It’s all about the exceptional performance of our team.”  For more information, visit remotenewsservice.com.

Jim BlighProving There’s More to Life in America this Week than Just Presidential Politics. Pictured above is Salem Radio Networks (SRN) East Coast affiliate relations manager Jim Bligh – a frequent “player” in NYC-based skits on “Saturday Night Live in addition to appearing in theatrical feature films – joined NBC’s “The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon” on Tuesday 10/29). Fallon and Grammy-winning guest Olivia Rodrigo played “What’s Behind Me?”…a charade style game with Fallon describing action happening as her back was turned. Blight – far right – acted out a scene of Three Mobsters doing Yoga at a Barnes & Noble. See Bligh’s skit by clicking here.

 

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TALKERS Legal Series on Fair Use (Part 5): The Balance Between “Exposure” and “Value” in Copyright Law

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MONDAY MEMO: Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?

By Holland Cooke
Consultant

imPossibly not — beginning Sunday — unless you live in Hawaii and Arizona (except the Navajo Nation) or American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. Everywhere else, clocks will change when we “fall-back” on November 3.

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MONDAY MEMO: Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?

By Holland Cooke
Consultant

imPossibly not — beginning Sunday — unless you live in Hawaii and Arizona (except the Navajo Nation) or American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, or the U.S. Virgin Islands. Everywhere else, clocks will change when we “fallback” on November 3.

It’s uncanny how just that one-hour shift impacts listeners’ lives. So, it’s a BIG topic of conversation. Plan now to empathize with the emotional and practical adjustments they’re confronting, including…

 

Increased Morning Light:

• Positive: With the clock set back, it becomes lighter earlier in the morning, which can help people wake up more easily and feel more alert, especially for those who need to start their day early.
• Negative: For people who start their day later, they may not notice much of a change, but the adjustment period can still be disruptive.

 

Shorter Evenings:

• Positive: The extra hour of light in the morning might be useful for early morning commuters, outdoor activities, or children heading to school.
• Negative: On the downside, the sun sets earlier in the evening, meaning it gets dark sooner. This can affect evening activities and make commutes home feel less pleasant or even more dangerous due to reduced visibility.

 

Disruption to Sleep Patterns:

• Positive: The “fall back” of the clock gives people an extra hour of sleep, which many enjoy.
• Negative: Some people experience disrupted sleep patterns and may feel temporarily groggy as their bodies adjust to the new time.

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Health and Mood:

• Positive: For some, the extra morning light can improve mood and reduce symptoms of Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD).
• Negative: The early evening darkness can lead to feelings of fatigue, a drop in energy levels, or contribute to “winter blues” or SAD. especially as daylight becomes limited.

Impact on Productivity:

• Positive: People may feel more productive in the morning due to earlier sunlight.
• Negative: However, the earlier sunset could reduce motivation to engage in activities after work or school, potentially leading to a decrease in evening productivity.

Safety Considerations:

• Positive: More daylight in the morning can make commuting safer for drivers and pedestrians during rush hour.
• Negative: With darker evenings, there’s an increased risk of accidents, especially for people who are walking or biking.

Energy Consumption:

• Positive: Energy usage patterns may shift because of less artificial light being used in the morning.
• Negative: However, people tend to use more lighting and heating in the evenings, which may counterbalance the potential energy savings.

Impact on Schedules:

• Positive: Some people enjoy having the extra hour in their day when DST ends.
• Negative: For parents and workers, adjusting children’s or personal routines to the earlier darkness can be challenging.

What’s a radio station to do?

• Bump with or play songs related to time (Cyndi Lauper “Time After Time,’ Cher‘s “If I Could Turn Back Time”).

• Explain the history of DST.

• Ask listeners’ opinions on DST. Do they love it or hate it? You’ll hear both.

• “How will you spend your extra hour?”

• Give away nostalgic items (like retro vinyl records or vintage tech).

• Sleep tips from health professionals and mental health experts.

• Advertisers offer “10% off for the extra hour! Sale only valid from midnight to 1:00 am.”

• Coffee or breakfast gift card giveaways.

• Pertinent commercial copy hooks, i.e., “It’s time for a new ___!”

And please note: It’s “Daylight Saving Time,” not “Daylight Savings Time.”

Holland Cooke (HollandCooke.com) is a consultant working the intersection of broadcasting and the Internet. Follow HC on Twitter @HollandCooke and connect on LinkedIn

 

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TALKERS Legal Series on Fair Use (Part 4): The Amount and Substantiality Factor

By Matthew B. Harrison
TALKERS, VP/Associate Publisher
Harrison Media Law, Senior Partner
Goodphone Communications, Executive Producer

Matthew B. Harrison, Esq.With the growing popularity of talk media programs utilizing segments of other shows as key elements of scrutiny and commentary in their programming (“Clip Jockey Format” as coined by Michael Harrison), it is important that media content creators be aware of the subtle and often ambiguous rules applying to the legal aspects of this practice under the heading of fair use.

This is the fourth installment of a multi-part TALKERS Legal Series on Fair Use for the Media Creator. The first installment is here. The second installment is here. The third installment is here.

The “amount and substantiality” factor in fair use focuses on how much of the copyrighted material is used and whether that portion is essential to the original work. Despite seeming obvious, this factor can be nuanced, and determining how much use is fair can be challenging because it’s not just about the quantity but also about the significance of the portion used.


Is It Difficult to Distinguish?

In many cases, it’s not always obvious what qualifies as a “small” or “insignificant” portion. Courts often consider both the quantity, and the quality of the material used:

• Quantity: This factor asks if only a small part of the work has been used. Using a shorter clip from a video or a few sentences from a book could be more justifiable as fair use. But what qualifies as “small” can vary depending on the work—10 seconds from a short film may be seen differently from 10 seconds in a longer documentary.

• Quality: Even if a creator only uses a small part of the original work, using its “heart” or most memorable part might still count as substantial. For example, a few lines from a song’s chorus, though short, could be considered significant enough to impact fair use status.

Example Cases Highlighting Amount and Substantiality

To better understand this, it’s useful to look at cases that illustrate when the amount used was deemed fair or not:

• Harper & Row v. Nation Enterprises (1985): This case involved a magazine that used a few hundred words from an unpublished memoir by President Gerald Ford. Although this was a small percentage of the memoir, the excerpt contained key insights into Ford’s decision to pardon Nixon. The court held that this use was not fair because it included the most “substantial” and critical part of the memoir, even though the total percentage of text used was minimal.

• Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc. (1994): Here, the hip-hop group 2 Live Crew used portions of Roy Orbison’s song “Oh, Pretty Woman” to create a parody. Even though the song’s recognizable parts were used, the new work was transformative in its purpose (a parody rather than a love song). Because the group’s use was a small part relative to the song’s total content and had a new purpose, the court found it was fair use.

Many books and law school classes have been devoted to this question – so let’s focus on Application in Media and Broadcasting

In radio and broadcasting, this factor is often relevant when using clips, songs, or interview segments from other sources. Using a small clip to support commentary or criticism is more likely to be considered fair use, especially if it does not contain the “heart” of the original work:

• Commentary on a Speech: If a talk show uses a brief part of a public figure’s speech to critique it, the fair use factor may weigh in favor of the radio station if it doesn’t take the most memorable segment.

• Use of Music in Shows: Music clips used for thematic transitions or commentary must be kept brief, as lengthy or highly recognizable parts can affect fair use status. Playing just a few bars might qualify, but a chorus or instrumental hook would likely cross the line. This is less of a mine field in traditional broadcast radio as existing license agreements, such as with ASCAP or BMI, may allow for such uses anyway. However, when focusing on the internet – it’s a completely different matter as no licenses have been formally given, yet there is an incentive for the copyright holder to have their work shared. It’s not cut and dry – which is why the following takeaways should be helpful when navigating forward.

Key Takeaways for Media Creators

• Use Minimal Amounts: The less you use, the more defensible your case for fair use, especially if you avoid the most recognizable parts.

• Avoid the “Heart” of the Work: Select portions that serve your purpose without including critical or memorable parts of the original material.

• Transformative Purpose Matters: If the use adds new meaning or serves a different function (e.g., satire, critique), it’s more likely to be deemed fair, even if it includes some key elements.

Summary

Understanding how much of the work a media creator can use while staying within fair use guidelines can be tricky, as this factor requires balancing quantity and significance. Media creators should focus on minimal use that contributes meaningfully to commentary, criticism, or other transformative purposes.

Media attorney, Matthew B. Harrison is VP/associate publisher, TALKERS; Senior Partner, Harrison Media Law; and executive producer, Goodphone Communications.  He is available for private consultation and media industry contract representation. He can be reached by phone at 724-484-3529 or email at matthew@harrisonmedialaw.com

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Salem Rides Wave of Election Drama with Live BattlegroundTour.com

Knowing full well that this presidential election cycle is serving up an unprecedented level of high drama, Salem Radio Network has been taking it to the peeps.
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Salem Radio Network’s nationally syndicated talk host Hugh Hewitt (above, right) cracks up at remarks by SRN colleague Mike Gallagher (above, left) addressing VIPs just before walking onstage at Salem’s BattlegroundTour.com in Columbus, Ohio Tuesday evening (10/22).  The event – which drew 1,000 listeners – is designed to tap into and generate excitement over Election Day on November 5th.  Gallagher and Hewitt will be joined by SRN host Larry Elder and Salem/Philadelphia morning host Chris Stigall on tonight (10/24) at The Fuge in Philadelphia for the next stop on their BattlegroundTour.com initiative. (Salem photo by Vince Tornero.)

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HighkiniHM Portand Adds Sean Highkin as Trail Blazers Correspondent on WPOJ-AM.  iHeartMedia Portland’s Rip City Radio 620, “Your Home of the Portland Trail Blazers,” announced today (10/24) that acclaimed sports journalist Sean Highkin will join the station as the Portland Trail Blazers correspondent, effective immediately. He will provide comprehensive coverage of the games, practices, press conferences and everything revolving around the Portland Trail Blazers on their flagship station. Highkin brings over a decade of experience covering the NBA, including seven years dedicated to the Portland Trail Blazers. As a trusted voice in basketball, his experience includes contributing to national outlets such as Bleacher Report, USA Today, The Athletic and NBC Sports. In 2023, Highkin was named Oregon Sportswriter of the Year by the National Sports Media Association.  “Sean’s knowledge, expertise and impressive track record will elevate and take our Trail Blazers coverage to the next level,” said Marshal Burgess, metro president of iHeartMedia Portland. “His insightful analysis and in-depth reporting have made him a respected voice in the sports journalism community, and we are thrilled to have him join the iHeartRadio Portland team.”

 

2025 Grand JuryNew York Festivals 2025 Radio Awards Announces Distinguished Grand Jury.  The New York Festivals® Radio Awards has announced its 2025 Grand Jury.  The 2025 Radio Awards Grand Jury features over 100 global leaders from the radio industry across six continents. This distinguished panel comprises world-class content creators, industry visionaries, and iconic voices. Recruited from renowned companies, these directors, producers, journalists, writers, and sound artists are celebrated for their innovation and engaging storytelling. “The robust world of audio storytelling today is fully represented in the 2025 edition of the Grand Jury,” said Rose Anderson, EVP/executive director, New York Festivals Radio Awards. “From audiobooks to podcasts, from investigative journalism to live events, and from mystery to social justice, this year’s jury members volunteer their time and lend their expertise.”  The New York Festivals Radio Awards provides a platform to celebrate creative storytellers from around the world. For 67 years, NYF has recognized both innovation and exceptional quality in broadcast audio content across all genres and platforms since 1957.  Since 2023, The National Press Club, has partnered with New York Festivals to honor the highest scoring news program across the Coverage Of Breaking News Story, Coverage Of Ongoing News Story, Nonfiction Series, Investigative Journalism Podcast, and News Podcast categories. The winner will be announced during the 2025 Storytellers Gala in April.  NYF’s Radio Awards receives entries from radio stations, networks, and independent producers from over 30 countries around the globe. The mission of the competition is to honor the achievements of the men and women who make up the global audio storytelling community.   To see complete list of Grand Jurors click here 2025 Grand Jury.  Award-winning entries for 2025 will be showcased on the Radio Awards winners gallery. View the 2024 winners’ showcase.  The entry deadline for the 2025 Radio Awards competition is January 31, 2025. To enter the 2025 Radio Awards please visit: HERE, for additional information visit: HERE.

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Part 2: Understanding Fair Use

By Matthew B. Harrison
TALKERS, VP/Associate Publisher
Harrison Media Law, Senior Partner
Goodphone Communications, Executive Producer

Matthew B. Harrison, Esq.Incorporating copyrighted material, such as video clips or actualities, can enhance your content, but understanding fair use is critical to avoid legal trouble. Fair use permits limited use of copyrighted material for purposes like criticism, commentary, news reporting, or parody without needing permission. Courts assess fair use based on four factors: purpose and character of the use (is it transformative?), nature of the work (factual vs. creative), amount used, and the effect on the market. Learn practical tips on safely navigating fair use, including using brief excerpts, transforming content, and considering market impact.

This is the second in a series of articles addressing the broader topic of fair use for media creators. Click here for the first installment.

Understanding Fair Use: Purpose and Character of the Use. When using copyrighted material belonging to others in the creation of your own media content, it is important to understanding the concept of fair use. Fair use allows copyrighted material to be used without permission for purposes like criticism, commentary, news reporting, education, or parody. It’s not an absolute right but rather a defense you can claim if challenged. Courts assess fair use based on four key factors, all which broadcasters should carefully consider.

The first factor of fair use that courts consider is the purpose and character of the use. Specifically, is the use of the material transformative? Transformative use is a key concept that can often determine whether your content qualifies as fair use or not – and really is the heart of the inquiry.

What Does Transformative Mean? In legal terms, a use is considered transformative when it adds new expression, meaning, or message to the original work. This is different from merely copying the work or using it for the same purpose as the original creator. By transforming the material, you’re creating something that serves a different purpose or offers new insights, rather than simply replicating the original content.

Example: Auto-Tune the News. One of the most famous examples of transformative use is the Gregory Brothers’ viral “Auto-Tune the News” series, which turned news clips into catchy, auto-tuned songs. In 2010, they took an interview clip with Antoine Dodson, who was describing an attempted home invasion, and turned it into the widely popular “Bed Intruder Song.”  In this case, the original news segment was purely factual—a straightforward broadcast of a local news report. However, by remixing the clip with auto-tuned vocals and adding music, the Gregory Brothers transformed the clip into a piece of entertainment and social commentary. This new purpose—entertainment and humor—was distinct from the original intent of simply delivering news, making it a classic example of transformative use. Although the raw news footage was copyrighted, the remix was so different in tone, presentation, and purpose that it was protected under fair use. The transformation added new creative elements and reframed the original material as a humorous, catchy song.

How Does This Apply to Radio? Let’s take this concept and apply it to radio, a medium that often uses clips from other sources. Imagine you’re running a talk show, and you want to use excerpts from a political speech to make a satirical point about current events. If you simply play the speech on air without any changes, it may not qualify as fair use because you haven’t transformed the original material – you’re just rebroadcasting it. However, if you take portions of the speech and then critique, analyze, or poke fun at it, you’re more likely to be in the clear. For example, if your show involves playing clips of political speeches interspersed with humorous commentary or parody, you’re repurposing the original work in a new and transformative way—much like “Auto-Tune the News.”

Another example could be a radio show that plays clips from popular songs but recontextualizes them within a larger discussion of musical trends or cultural history. If the song clips are used to illustrate a point and not simply for entertainment value, the new purpose—educational or critical analysis—can qualify the use as fair. In cases involving parody or political commentary on radio, the fair use defense has sometimes been successful. For instance, radio shows that use short clips from speeches, interviews, or news broadcasts for commentary, satire, or criticism can invoke fair use if the content is transformed for a new purpose.

One example is when talk radio shows play brief excerpts of copyrighted works (e.g., speeches, news clips) to critique or analyze them. If the use is transformative and doesn’t replace the original work in the marketplace (i.e., people wouldn’t listen to the radio show as a substitute for the original), courts have shown a willingness to accept fair use in such contexts. However, detailed legal battles involving radio stations using copyrighted material for parody or commentary are less common than those involving music licensing.

Example: Rogers v. Koons (Rebroadcast of News Content). While not as widely reported as music-related cases, one example of a copyright infringement suit involving the rebroadcast of talk content was a case where a news organization sued a radio station for replaying portions of its copyrighted interviews and reports without permission. In cases like this, radio stations or broadcasters may try to claim fair use based on the purpose of the rebroadcast, such as using a portion of an interview for commentary, satire, or news reporting. However, if the content is used purely to replay the original, as opposed to being transformed into a new, critical, or educational piece, the fair use defense may not succeed.  For example, news stations may license their talk content (like interviews or original reporting) through syndication deals. If a radio station broadcasts this content without securing the necessary licensing agreement, they may face a copyright lawsuit.

Example: Talk Show Hosts and Syndicated Content. A real-world scenario can involve syndicated talk shows or podcasts that are copyrighted. Radio stations can face lawsuits if they replay this content without proper authorization. An example would be stations rebroadcasting popular talk radio shows or political commentaries (such as those by syndicated hosts like Rush Limbaugh or Howard Stern) without purchasing broadcast rights. This unauthorized use can lead to legal action from the copyright holders. For example, if a station replays clips of an interview conducted by NPR or a news network for entertainment or even news purposes, and it doesn’t transform the content for criticism or commentary, it may be violating copyright law. Radio companies might try to claim fair use, but the courts will look closely at whether the replay served a new, transformative purpose or was simply a verbatim rebroadcast.

Key Considerations for Broadcasters. To better understand whether your use of copyrighted content is transformative, ask yourself:

• Are you adding new meaning or message? The more your work transforms the original content – such as using it for commentary, criticism, or satire – the more likely it qualifies as fair use.

• Does your use serve a different purpose? If you’re using the content for a new purpose, like entertainment, education, or social commentary, rather than simply duplicating the original, it can be seen as transformative.

• Are you just using the original for its own sake? If the copyrighted material is used in a way that does not add new expression or meaning, it’s less likely to fall under fair use. Transformative use is a powerful defense in fair use claims, but it’s not a guarantee. Always make sure your purpose and character are different from the original intent of the work, and when in doubt, seek legal counsel.

Media attorney, Matthew B. Harrison is VP/associate publisher, TALKERS; Senior Partner, Harrison Media Law; and executive producer, Goodphone Communications.  He is available for private consultation and media industry contract representation. He can be reached by phone at 724.484.3529 or email at matthew@harrisonmedialaw.com

 

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Fair Use: A Media Creator’s Guide to Using Copyrighted Content

By Matthew B. Harrison
TALKERS, VP/Associate Publisher
Harrison Media Law, Senior Partner
Goodphone Communications, Executive Producer

Matthew B. Harrison, Esq.As a media creator, incorporating copyrighted material, such as video clips or actualities, into your content can enhance your message. But when using someone else’s work, you need to consider fair use, a legal principle that permits limited use of copyrighted material under certain conditions – without needing permission from the copyright holder. Understanding when and how you can safely use this material is critical to avoiding costly liability – whether it’s a copyright strike or complicated copyright litigation.

What is fair use? Fair use is the legal principle that allows copyrighted material to be used without permission for purposes above and beyond the original version – like criticism, commentary, news reporting, education, or parody. It’s not an absolute right but rather a defense you can claim if challenged. Courts assess fair use based on four key factors, all which creators should carefully consider.

Purpose and character of the use.  Is the use of the material transformative? This means that you’re adding something new or giving it a different purpose than the original, rather than just copying it. This is more likely to be allowable. On the other hand, simply reposting someone else’s video with little change is not transformative and could be seen as infringement.

Nature of the copyrighted work.  Not all content is treated equally under fair use. Factual works (such as news reports) are more likely to be subject to fair use than creative works (like movies or music videos). Why? Courts recognize that creative works often involve a higher level of personal expression, so they deserve more protection. Plus, society has an interest in being able to quickly disseminate news and other important information – therefore, facts generally have little to no protection themselves.

Amount and substantiality. The more of the original work you use, the less likely it is to qualify as fair use. Using a brief clip or excerpt is more defensible than using an entire segment or the “heart” of a work, which is often the most memorable or critical part. This becomes less of an issue when using factual material, though immediately can get complicated if the material being used is someone elses opinion and commentary. This is where taking less is going to be more – in terms of preventing potential liability.

Effect on the market. If your use of the copyrighted material could replace the need for the original courts are more likely to see it as infringement. In other words – is your use of the material taking money out of the pockets of the original creator? This isn’t a moral judgement but purely an objective analysis. If your use does not impact the market for the original work, such as in a news or educational context, it’s more likely to fall under fair use.

Practical Takeaways for Media Creators

Use brief excerpts, not whole segments. The less you use, the more likely it’s fair use.

Make sure your use is transformative. Add commentary, criticism, or parody to distinguish your work from the original.

Be mindful of market impact. Avoid using copyrighted material in a way that competes with the original.

Credit is not enough. Even if you give attribution, it doesn’t exempt you from potential liability. Fair use depends on how you use the material, not just on crediting the original creator.

While fair use provides flexibility, it’s crucial to apply it carefully. When in doubt, consult with legal counsel to ensure your content remains within legal bounds.

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SABO SEZ: Move or Die!

By Walter Sabo
A.K.A. Walter Sterling, Host
Sterling Every Damn Night, WPHT, Philadelphia
Sterling On Sunday, TMN

Walter M. SterlingIf a shark doesn’t swim, it dies. Radio is just fine, thank you, but it’s not swimming. Water, check. Tank, check, Sharks, check. Swimming to the next meal, nope. For the past 10 years at least, the radio show in every city is stuck in place and that sound in the distance that wakes you up at night is a death rattle.

The public perceives radio to be live, current, and local. Those three ingredients are the foundation of radio’s hundred years of success and the envy of all other media. That’s right – ALL. OTHER. MEDIA.  Radio was born with the characteristics envied by newspapers, magazines, streaming, TV… name it.

The savior of the AM band was not a three-hour-a-day-host. The savior is all-news and local live. The FM formats that thrive and grow put up a live mirror to a city’s needs and tastes.  Stations that sound like their city, and no other city, do not just win – they dominate. The radio shark is the forward momentum of urgent local information, new ideas, new jokes.

When asked, most people will say, “I don’t think I listen to the radio much…” But they do. The problem is radio is not top of mind. Why not? Because radio must demand listener attention with urgent, new ideas, entertainment, and information. “Your favorites from the 90s and today” isn’t doing that. Listen to air checks of the double-digit share legends of top 40 night-time radio. They weren’t so great. BUT in every single break they announced the names of local schools, listeners, events – every break with urgency. The more listener names, the higher their shares. Radio math. The more listener names, the more live local points of reference, the higher the audience share.

Consider the stunning ratings of too many NPR stations. What accounts for their growth trajectory? Clock the percentage of time your local NPR station spends presenting local news, local information, and new ideas.

Compare that with any other station in the city. In its own dreary way, most NPR stations deliver on the presumed benefits of the medium of radio: Local, live, urgent ideas. Yes, many commercial stations command major ratings for the same reason: All-news stations, and hybrids such as WSB, Atlanta; KRLD, Dallas; New Jersey 101.5, WABC, New York; KFI, Los Angeles; WTAM, Cleveland; WPHT Philadelphia.

It’s sacred geometry: The more often a listener hears about their local, daily life, the higher go the ratings.

Consultant Walter Sabo A.K.A. Walter M Sterling has a nightly show “Sterling Every Damn Night” heard on WPHT, Philadelphia 9:00 pm – 12:00 midnight. His syndicated show, “Sterling On Sunday,” from Talk Media Network, airs Sundays 10:00 pm – 1:00 am ET, and is now in its 10th year of success. He can be reached by email at waltermsterling@gmail.com or Sabowalter@gmail.com.

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MONDAY MEMO: Bleep?

By Holland Cooke
Consultant

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Patty Hixson, regional vice president, Cumulus Fresno/Stockton/Modesto, was honored during the Marjaree Mason Center’s 41st Annual Top 10 Professional Women and Leading Business Awards (10/16). Patty HixsonThe hallmark awards ceremony, presented by CalViva Health in the New Exhibit Hall of the Fresno Convention & Entertainment Center. The awards paid tribute to 10 Central Valley women who have excelled professionally, served as role models, and given back to their communities, as well as one business honored for its support of women and women’s issues. Patty Hixson’s successful radio career spans 32 years serving the Central Valley. An active leader in the community, she has been a member of the Fig Garden Rotary Club for 30 years, serving as president in 2018, and was a longtime member of the California State University-Fresno’s Bulldog Foundation. Hixson also served on the Board of Directors of the Greater Fresno Area Chamber of Commerce. Patty Hixson said: “I’m honored and humbled to be recognized among this astute group of leaders. Giving back to the community is a central part of my DNA, and I thank the Marjaree Mason Center for this award and for its important efforts supporting all women in our community.”

Edison Research to present the Sports Audio Report: Demographics at Play.  Edison Research today announces that the Sports Audio Report: Demographics at Play with SiriusXM Media will be presented in a webinar on Tuesday, October 29 at 2:00 PM ET.  This third and final installment from the Sports Audio Report, from Edison Research, SiriusXM Media, and GroupM, will explore the diversity in sports fandom, examine sports fans’ interaction with sports audio, and discuss how to reach different groups of sports fans when it comes to advertising. The webinar will be presented by Salma Aly, manager of research at Edison Research and MaryKate Breslin, senior manager, sales research at SiriusXM Media.  Registration for the webinar is now open.  For more information: Daniella Peter Paul-Loor, dpeterpaulloor@edisonresearch.com

 

Jeff Lewis Signs New Multi-Year Agreement with SiriusXM, Expands Hit Talk Show “Jeff Lewis Live” to Two Hours Daily. SiriusXM announced today that Jeff Lewis has signed a multi-year agreement extension with SiriusXM.Sirius The agreement extension will feature Jeff Lewis expanding his popular show, “Jeff Lewis Live” to two hours a day giving listeners more of Jeff Lewis promoted as “just the way you want him…live and uncensored.”  Lewis tells TALKERS, “SiriusXM has given me the freedom to build a show that is unfiltered, unapologetic, and morally corrupt. I’m grateful for the opportunity to grow my show and my cult…I mean, listeners.” The show will now air Monday through Fridays from 12:00 noon – 2:00 pm ET on SiriusXM’s Radio Andy (ch. 102) and on the SiriusXM app. SiriusXM’s Radio Andy features 24/7 content produced and curated by Andy Cohen, and features the latest in pop culture, celebrities, lifestyle, news and more. SiriusXM’s Radio Andy lineup includes “Andy Cohen Live,” “Jeff Lewis Live,” “Smith Sisters Live (Lauren, Rachel, and Mariah Smith),” “Gayle King in the House,” “The Jess Cagle Show with Julia Cunningham,” “It’s Me, Tinx,” and more.

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2024 Presidential Race Taking on Historic Role as Nation’s First “Podcast Election”

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September 2024 U.S. Podcast Ranker Released from Triton Digital Plus New Political Podcast Data

TritonTriton Digital has just released its U.S. Podcast Ranker for September 2024. The ranker is measured by Triton’s Podcast Metrics measurement service and includes a reporting period of September 2, 2024 – September 29, 2024.

Highlights this month include:

• iHeart Audience Network was the #1 Top Sales Networks Report, SiriusXM Podcast Network came in at #2, followed by NPR at #3.

• Top podcasts based on downloads included “NPR News Now” (NPR) at #1, “Up First” (NPR) at #2, and “Crime Junkie” (audiochuck) climbing to #3.

• Top podcasts for listeners were “NPR News Now” (NPR) at #1, “Crime Junkie” (audiochuck) at #2, and “Up First” (NPR) at #3.

• Top podcast debuts included “NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal (iHeart Audience Network), “Where Everybody Knows Your Name with Ted Danson and Woody Harrelson (sometimes)” (SiriusXM Podcast Network), and “All In With Chris Hayes” (NBCUniversal News Group).

Additionally, Triton Digital collaborated with Signal Hill Insights to uncover political podcast downloads and audience trends as the U.S. presidential election approaches:

• Political podcasts have seen a 28% increase in year-over-year downloads with incremental increases over the last six months.

• Twice as many downloads come from Democrat-leaning podcasts as Republican-leaning ones. Although Democrat-leaning podcasts still make up the majority of the political podcast market, they saw their listenership decline from 58% to 56% year-over-year while Republican podcasts rose from 23% to 28% of total political podcast downloads.

• The demographic profile of political podcast listeners reveals an older, highly educated, and affluent audience compared to the U.S. general 18+ population: 59.7% are college graduates, 31.9% report a household income exceeding $100,000, and nearly half (47.2%) are 55 years or older.

• While still affluent and educated compared to the U.S. Population, Republican-leaning podcast listener profiles under-index compared to Democrat and Independent-leaning podcasts on these attributes. Additionally, they boast the highest proportion (89.9%) of White/Caucasian listeners among the three political leanings. Democrat-leaning podcasts have attracted the highest proportion (17.4%) of Black/African American listeners.

• Independent-leaning podcasts claim the highest proportion (16.2%) of Hispanic listeners and are 68.2% college-educated, and 62.4% male.

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Florida Association of Broadcasters Donates $25,000 to BFOA’s Hurricanes Helene and Milton Fund to Meet/Match Donation from WABC Owner John Catsimatidis

Florida Association of Broadcasters Logo BlkThe Florida Association of Broadcasters (FAB) has donated $25,000 to the Broadcasters Foundation of America (BFOA) Hurricanes Helene and Milton Fund. With the addition of FAB’s donation, BFOA has exceeded the amount necessary for the $25,000 match donation from John Catsimatidis, owner and CEO of Red Apple Media and WABC,  New York.  “The Broadcasters Foundation has been a tremendous help to individuals in broadcasting who are in the greatest need of assistance from the onslaught of these back-to-back hurricanes. On behalf of FAB’s Executive Committee and Board of Directors, we are proud to make this contribution,”  said Pat Roberts, president/CEO of FAB. im “Unfortunately, this is far from over,” he continued. “Many of our colleagues are just now discovering the extent of the damage and the cost of repairing or rebuilding. On behalf of our members and all broadcasters who are suffering from the catastrophic impact of these storms, please continue to contribute to the Broadcasters Foundation Hurricanes Fund.”  “We are so grateful to John and Pat and all the individual donors who continue to rise to the occasion and provided much-needed donations to help our colleagues, many of whom are temporarily homeless,” stated Tim McCarthy, President of BFOA. “The volume of requests that pour in every day is overwhelming. We need everyone in radio and television to give as much as they can afford. There is no such thing as a too small donation. Every dollar helps.”  The Broadcasters Foundation has temporarily adjusted its already streamlined Emergency Grant Guidelines and Application Process to make it even easier and faster to get funds into the hands of broadcasters hit hardest by these storms. Under the adjusted guidelines, broadcasters who have suffered catastrophic loss contact their market manager or GM, who then fills out the Hurricanes Helene and Milton Group Submission Form for all of those within their station who are applying. To access the new temporary application form, market or general managers may click here. To make a donation to the Broadcasters Foundation of America Hurricanes Helene and Milton Emergency Fund, please click here.

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Former U.S. Sen. Doug Jones (D-AL) to Host Special Live Show for SiriusXM’s Progress Channel Tomorrow (10/17)

SiriusXM announced today that Doug Jones, former Democratic senator from Alabama, will host a special program exclusively for SiriusXM’s Progress channel tomorrow evening (10/17). Doug Jones ID“The CloakRoom with Former Senator Doug Jones” will air live tomorrow from 6:00 pm – 8:00 pm ET on channel 127.  According to company sources, with just a few weeks remaining before the November 5 elections, Senator Jones will engage with Progress listeners, taking calls to discuss the pressing news stories of the day. He’ll also leverage his personal political experience to analyze the key senatorial races, as well as the presidential election. In addition, the former senator will be joined by Julie Chavez Rodriguez, VP Kamala Harris’s campaign manager, as well as a surprise guest. “The stakes in this election could not be any higher,” Jones tells TALKERS. “I can’t think of a better way to talk directly with voters nationwide and have real conversations about the issues at the top of their minds as we head into Election Day. As a regular guest on SiriusXM’s Progress channel, I know they have a passionate audience with a lot of important, fresh subjects to discuss, so this should be a lot of fun.” The show will have its first run live during the usual time slot of “The Dean Obeidallah Show.” The special will also replay multiple times throughout the week and will be available anytime on demand on the SiriusXM app. Progress is SiriusXM’s channel dedicated to amplifying progressive viewpoints. The channel features a wide range of voices including Zerlina Maxwell, Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartmann, Michelangelo Signorile, Dean Obeidallah, John Fugelsang, and more. Photo by Joy Asico-Smith / AP for SiriusXM.

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iHeartMedia to Host “We the People: An Audio Townhall with VP Kamala Harris and Charlamagne Tha God” Tomorrow (10/15) at 5:00 pm ET

iHeartMedia and multimedia mogul Charlamagne Tha God, on air host of New York’s Power 105’s popular, nationally syndicated hit radio show “The Breakfast Club” announced “We the People: An Audio Townhall with Kamala Harris and Charlamagne Tha God” an hour-long town hall-style event hosted live in Detroit tomorrow (10/15) at 5:00 pm ET.  Just 25 days before the 2024 elections, iHeartRadio’s Charlamagne Tha God will have what is being described as an important and thought-provoking discussion with the Democratic nominee for President of the United States on a variety of significant topics about the election. In addition to a thorough discussion about the election, Vice President Harris will answer some questions from voters across the country.  Our listeners are very passionate,” said Charlamagne during his morning show. “I want local voices from Detroit and voices from all the battleground states to get the opportunity to ask Vice President Kamala Harris some questions.  I know we got some pressing issues to talk about. The future of the nation is decided by who we elect.” The town hall will broadcast live and stream across 130 iHeartRadio stations nationwide and on the iHeartRadio App at iHeartRadio.com/WeThePeople.  It will be available on demand following the live broadcast at iHeartRadio.com/WeThePeople.  Listeners can also follow @BreakfastClubAM and @iHeartRadio on social platforms for the latest news and info.  Listeners can submit their questions to VP Harris right now by downloading the iHeartRadio app and using the Talk Back function. Listeners can simply click the microphone icon on their favorite iHeartRadio station, record their question and hit “send.”

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Michael Berry Interviews WWNC, Asheville PD Mark Starling

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Pictured above: the staff of WWNC, Asheville during the storm. Morning host and news director Mark Starling shown bottom center.

Premiere Networks and TALKERS top 10 Heavy Hundred-star Michael Berry interviewed Mark Starling, morning host and news director of iHeart’s WWNC, Asheville, NC yesterday (10/9) about his broadcast team’s experience serving the public while surviving themselves during the wrath of Hurricane Helene.  Berry tells TALKERS, “The WWNC staffers were stranded inside their studios in Asheville during the worst of the storm.  They rose to the occasion, reminding everyone why radio matters more than ever.  Not just the medium, the people who create the magic. He explains why this storm proves we need AM radio in our cars.  It saved lives.” Berry adds, “I want every congressman and senator to hear this.  Starling tells about his family being stranded in rising water, trying to get to them and safety, and he and his entire station were flooded in the building, unable to get out.  They had no power, internet, nothing. Radio at its best.  Humanity at its best. Grace.”  To listen to a podcast of the conversation between Berry and Starling, please click here.

To read a comprehensive story in the Asheville Citizen-Times about WWNC’s role in the storm, please click here.

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KNX News in Los Angeles Hosts L.A. County District Attorney Debate

Just as ballots arrived at homes across America’s largest county, Audacy’s KNX News 97.1 FM in Los Angeles presented a live debate Tuesday (10/8) in the pivotal race for L.A. County district attorney between incumbent George Gascon (pictured at left podium) and challenger Nathan Hochman (right). Also pictured above: KNX News’s Mike Simpson (l) and Charles Feldman (r) moderated. The feisty drive-time debate, which was presented in partnership with The Los Angeles Times from the Audacy SoundSpace, cast a sharp contrast between the candidates and made news by addressing Gascon’s recent decision to review the murder convictions of the Menendez brothers, the subjects of the Netflix series “Monsters.”

KNX Debate

Panelists included KNX’s Emily Valdez (r)along with L.A. Times reporters James Queally (l) and Brittny Mejia (c).