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Monday Memo: Milk It

By Holland Cooke
Consultant

imIf last week’s column didn’t out me as an utter Smerconish fan-boy, this week’s will. Find his 2/10 CNN show online. It may be the best hour of cable news Talk TV I’ve ever seen; and having hosted several hundred myself, I don’t say so casually.

After Special Counsel Robert K. Hur’s report on President Biden’s mishandling of classified material characterized him as a “sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” Michael’s poll asked: “Should Jill Biden suggest to her husband that he not seek re-election?”

50,504 votes (not a misprint): 63.85% Yes, 36.15% No.

Guest James Carville quipped that “Today is the youngest you’ll ever be for the rest of your life;” and he noted that LBJ didn’t drop out of the 1968 race until March.

Meanwhile, the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals rejects Donald Trump’s claim of immunity from prosecution for the potential crimes tied to trying to stay in office despite losing the election…AND polls consistently demonstrate that most Americans don’t want a Biden-Trump rematch in 2024. Undaunted, Nikki Haley asks “do we really want two 80-year-olds” to be the choice?

With all due respect to Rush Limbaugh for leading the vaunted “Talk Radio Revolution” back then, this format’s golden age is NOW. We are in the suspense business. Milk it.

TALKERS publisher Michael Harrison asks, “Does the current crop of hosts, trained to preach to their target audience choirs, have the skill and balls to take advantage of the frustrated – even desperate – mood of the greater American public outside their narrow-minded core followers? And will their bosses allow them to even try?”

While I share his concern, I am advising news/talk stations that the “news” component is MUCH more tactically opportune than the “talk” – even for FOX News Radio affiliates which program major syndicated political hosts. ABC and CBS newscasts are also big assets, appointment listening if we promote overtly.

Specific goal: Add occasions-of-tune-in. How: “With SO much changing SO quickly now, stay close to the news. Check-in for a quick [name of network] update, every half hour…here. [dial positions, call letters].”

Local news people: This tactic will better expose your work too. Emulate your network’s writing style, latest-aspect-first, short sentences, use sound, and sound different than last hour.

Hosts: LISTEN. If callers barely let you get a word in edgewise, you’re playing this just right.

Holland Cooke (HollandCooke.com) is a consultant working at the intersection of broadcasting and the Internet. He is the author of “The Local Radio Advantage: Your 4-Week Tune-In Tune-Up,” and “Close Like Crazy: Local Direct Leads, Pitches & Specs That Earned the Benjamins”and “Confidential: Negotiation Checklist for Weekend Talk Radio.” Follow HC on Twitter @HollandCooke and connect on LinkedIn.

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TALKERS News Notes

Cumulus Media Inc will host a conference call on February 27 at 8:30 am ET to discuss its fourth quarter and full year 2023 operating results. A press release containing a summary of these results will be issued before the call at approximately 8:00 am ET.

Audacy announces that according to Triton Digital’s U.S. Podcast Report 2023, it is the number one sports podcast network, based on average monthly downloads for all networks measured in Triton’s U.S. Podcast Ranker from January to December 2023. Audacy says, “With over 600 titles in its portfolio, Audacy boasts three times more sports podcasts than any competitor and is the industry’s largest provider of sports content.”

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Top News/Talk Media Stories Over the Weekend

President Joe Biden’s age and the presidential race; former President Donald Trump’s Russia-NATO comments; the aftermath of Tucker Carlson’s interview with Vladimir Putin; Israel’s rescue of two hostages as Palestinians say more than 100 are killed in Rafah; the U.S. Senate advances a $95 billion foreign aid package; the uncertain fate of Trump’s immunity claim before the Supreme Court; Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin hospitalized again; and the run-up to Sunday night’s Super Bowl LVIII were some of the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media over the weekend, according to ongoing research from TALKERS magazine.

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FROM THE ARCHIVE: Joe Madison Classic Interview Posted This Week on Harrison Podcast

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Legendary radio talk show host and civil rights activist Joe Madison, who succumbed last week to cancer at 74, is memorialized on this week’s installment of the award-winning PodcastOne series, “The Michael Harrison Interview.” In addition to expressing his personal view of Madison’s career and historic accomplishments, Harrison presents what he describes as the “most comprehensive interview with Joe Madison available in the extensive TALKERS archives.” Harrison continues, “Joe Madison has appeared as a guest on eight occasions during this podcast’s eight-year history (a milestone achieved this month) in addition to delivering two major keynote addresses and making at least five additional panel appearances at national TALKERS conferences – so we certainly have a wealth of material from which to choose.” The interview presented here was conducted and originally posted in April, 2022 in conjunction with the publication at that time of Madison’s long-awaited book, Radio Active: A Memoir of Advocacy in Action, on the Air and in the Streets. The strikingly candid conversation between the two old friends covers Madison’s personal exploration into his genealogy along with his experiences in dealing with alleged racism in his radio career, life-threatening hunger strikes, and his general complex overview and connection with Black and White relations in America. Harrison states, “As warm as our personal friendship grew over the years, interviewing Joe was never easy.  He challenged me at every turn – even when I agreed with him. At one point in this interview, he bluntly tells me that my question is naïve!” Listen to the podcast in its entirety here.

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TALKERS News Notes

The latest editions of Benztown president Dave “Chachi” Denes’ podcast “Chachi Loves Everybody” features two radio executives as Denes interviews Dennis Green, COO, Key Networks and Sun & Fun Media, and Jeff Warshaw, founder and CEO of Connoisseur Media. Listen to the podcasts here.

Edison Research announces that The Infinite Dial 2024 will be presented on March 28 live at Podcast Movement Evolutions in Los Angeles. A free streaming option will be available for those not attending the conference in person. Edison says, “The study provides important benchmark measures for usage and behavior around streaming audio, podcasting, radio, smart audio, social media, and more. The 2024 Infinite Dial will be presented by Edison Research VP Megan Lazovick.

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Saga Communications Declares Cash Dividend

Saga Communications’ board of directors announces that the company is declaring a quarterly cash dividend of $0.25 per share. The dividend will be paid on March 8, 2024, to shareholders of record onim February 20, 2024. The aggregate amount of the payment to be made in connection with the quarterly dividend will be approximately $1.6 million. The quarterly dividend will be funded by cash on the company’s balance sheet. Including this dividend, the company will have paid approximately $127 million in dividends to shareholders since the first special dividend was paid in 2012.

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Wayne Allyn Root, “We Did This!”

Las Vegas-based, nationally syndicated talk radio host Wayne Allyn Root celebrates the 8th anniversary of his talk radio show (2/7). The anniversary coincides with the Nevada GOP primary that saw GOPim candidate Nikki Haley come in behind “None of the Above Candidates.” (“None of the Above Candidates” is choice that has been on Nevada ballots since 1975.)  Root tells TALKERS that he came up with the strategy of convincing his audience to vote “None of the Above” to support Donald Trump and claims, “This is Exhibit A for the power of talk radio. Look at the vote totals. The number of ‘None of the Above’ voters almost exactly matches the number of listeners to my Vegas and statewide Nevada radio show. We did this. My Nevada audience almost single-handedly ended Nikki’s presidential ambitions.”

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RTDNA to Honor 2024 First Amendment Honorees

The RTDNA Foundation announces its class of 2024 First Amendment Award honorees, recognizing 13 individuals and organizations for their efforts to promote responsible journalism and preserve the constitutionally guaranteed rights to do so. Recipients will be honored March 9 at the 33rd annual First Amendment Awards at The Watergate Hotel in Washington, D.C. RTDNA Foundation president Danim Shelley says, “It is our sacred duty to promote, protect and defend the First Amendment, which makes journalism the only vocation specifically protected in our Constitution. The individuals represented in this group of recipients embody the spirit of such journalism. And their work reminds us why it is so important to defend the First Amendment each and every day.” The honorees include: Gio Benitez, ABC News; Lauren Chooljian, New Hampshire Public Radio; Ingrid Ciprián-Matthews, CBS News; Evan Gershkovich, Wall Street Journal; Dylan Lyons, Spectrum News 13 “Citation of Courage”; Joan and Eric Meyer, Marion County Record, “Citation of Courage”; ProPublica; Rep. Jamie Raskin; Jesse Walden, Spectrum News 13, “Citation of Courage”; Clarissa Ward, CNN; Kristen Welker, NBC News; and Phil Williams, WVTF-TV, “Lifetime Achievement Award.”

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Yesterday’s (2/7) Top News/Talk Media Stories

The U.S. migrant crisis and Congress’ failure to pass border control and aid to Ukraine and Israel legislation; SCOTUS to hear the Donald Trump election eligibility case; the Fani Willis–Nathan Wade relationship; the Israel-Hamas war and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza; the Russia-Ukraine war and Tucker Carlson’s claim he’ll interview Vladimir Putin; U.S. military strikes on an Iran-backed militia in Iraq; Super Bowl LVIII and MAGA’s Taylor Swift-NFL conspiracy theory; the atmospheric river bringing floods and mudslides to Southern California were some of the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday, according to ongoing research from TALKERS magazine.

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Mysteries Explained: The Radio Hall of Fame

By Walter Sabo
Consultant, Sabo Media Implementers
A.K.A. Walter Sterling
Radio Host, “Sterling On Sunday”
Talk Media Network

imFor several years I’ve had the surprising privilege of serving as a member of the nominating committee of the Radio Hall of Fame. How does the process work? Let me clear up some of the mystery. FAQ:

Who chooses the nominations? You have input. Right now, the Hall is seeking recommendations from you without restriction. Who do you think belongs in the ROF? Suggest your nominations until March 31 https://www.radiohalloffame.com/nominate. After the nominations close, a list of hundreds of respected names are reviewed by the nominating committee.

Who is on the Nominating committee? The members are listed on the website: https://www.radiohalloffame.com/committee. They represent radio companies of all sizes and no one company is over-represented. Many of the members are not affiliated with any one company. Some are inductees, themselves.

Do committee members “push” people just from their own company? Not from my experience.

Can companies buy favor with sponsorship participations? No. The event sponsorship process happens after inductees are determined.

Is there geographic favoritism? Every nominee is considered for accomplishment, tenure, geography, format. It is fair to say that the committee agonizes over each of those qualities.

Who votes? The committee of 25 narrows it down to 24 nominees and that list is sent to approximately 1,000 broadcasters representing all formats, parts of the country and owners. An accounting firm receives and counts those votes.

Can’t the committee unilaterally select an inductee? Yes, but it is usually just one person, someone who is not an on-air talent.

What are the terms of the committee members? The positions rotate. Three to seven years seems to be the typical tenure.

What is a Legacy?  If a broadcaster is deceased, they can be fully honored as an inductee in the Legacy category.

Support is needed. Every year the induction ceremony is a beautiful, well-executed event celebrating our passion for quality radio. At the moment, it is one of the few pure “radio” gatherings. (Don’t annoy me about the NAB – they used to have a pure, big tent radio event but now that’s a sales event.).

The constant refrain that radio does not get appropriate credit as a viable, MAJOR medium can be mitigated when our Hall of Fame evening is a sell-out. Every single company should buy tables, ads and send their C-suite. The well-produced show is available for broadcast and should be broadcast! The speeches are much funnier than the Oscars or Emmys.

Walter Sabo is a leading media industry consultant and syndicated talk radio personality.  He can be emailed at Walter@Sabomedia.com. Website: www.waltersterlingshow.com

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Jim Rome Moving Video Simulcast of Radio Show to X

The Big Lead reports from the Super Week radio row in Las Vegas that Jim Rome has announced thatim his CBS Sports Radio-syndicated program will cease its video simulcast with CBS Sports and that simulcast will move to X (formerly Twitter) soon. Rome had nothing but praise for CBS Sports and added that the video simulcast will disappear for a period before resurfacing on X at a date yet to be determined. There are no reported changes coming to the radio program itself. Read the story here.

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Pew Research: Majority of Podcasts Employ Guests

Pew Research Center says that according to its study of the podcast landscape focusing on analyzing guests featured on top-ranked shows, “most top-ranked podcasts in 2022 (76%) brought on at least one guest, with over 7,000 people appearing on these shows.” Other findings include: 1) Podcasts about certain topics tend to have guests more often, including top-ranked sports (100%), entertainment (85%)im and politics (78%) shows. In addition, 89% of news-focused podcasts (across topics) brought on at least one guest in 2022; 2) Most podcasts aren’t bringing the same guests on over and over. More than 99% of all guests only appeared once on any top podcast in 2022. In addition, about half (49%) of top podcasts brought on at least one guest more than once, and 23% hosted more than five different people more than once. The most common guests represent a range of professional backgrounds, including entertainment figures, scientists, journalists and political commentators. Pew senior computational social scientist Galen Stocking comments, “Our research has shed light on the variety of topics and approaches within the podcasting landscape. Here, we found that most top-ranked podcasts are bringing on guests, and often from a wide range of professional backgrounds. This can add to the perspectives heard on each podcast.”

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Spotify Posts Q4 2023 Financial Date: Revenue Up 16%

Reporting both its fourth quarter 2023 and full-year 2023 operating results, Sweden-based Spotify reveals Q4 2023 revenue of €3.67 billion, an increase of almost 16% over the same period in 2022. Forim the full year of 2023, Spotify posted revenue of €13.25 billion, an increase of almost 13% over the full year of 2022. However, the company also reports a net loss of €70 million for Q4 of 2023 and a net loss of €532 million for the full year of 2023, the latter an increased loss of almost 24% from 2022 to 2023.

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Benztown will release the 10th Annual Benztown 50 List of Radio’s Biggest Imaging Voices, “the radio industry’s exclusive listing of the top 50 voiceover artists in the U.S. and Canada.” The Benztown 50 list is based on several criteria, including number of radio station affiliates, station size and market. Benztown has partnered with P1 Media Group to compile and analyze industry data that will be the foundation for this distinction. Apply now through March 1. Voice talent can apply here.

Syndicated Solutions, Inc celebrates its 25th Anniversary. The company was founded in February 1999 by Robert Carey and has successfully syndicated many radio shows over the years, including the current travel show “RMWorldTravel with Robert & Mary Carey and Rudy Maxa,” and the “Rick & Bubba Show” that is in the process of being transitioned into “The Rick Burgess Show.” Carey says, “It’s incredibly gratifying to have incubated SSI from a business trip conversation with George Green while working for Disney/ABC and successfully growing it into the company that SSI became for so many of our operating years, as well as the evolution into the more focused firm that we are today.”

FOX Sports Radio’s “The Paulie and Tony Fusco Show” was awarded the 2024 Sports Podcast Award for “Best Sports Comedy,” from The Sports Podcast Group. “The Paulie and Tony Fusco Show” is a satire of sports talk radio and “hot take” media personalities. It is written, produced, and hosted by veteran sports talk producers Andrew Samson and Sharief Ali, who play two Philadelphia Eagles fans who claim to have the “smartest” sports takes, when in reality their takes are terrible.

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Yesterday’s (2/6) Top News/Talk Media Stories

A federal appeals court rules former President Donald Trump does not have immunity from prosecution; the U.S. House fails in a vote to impeach Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas; under pressure from Trump, Senate Republicans are expected to block the bipartisan border deal and aid for Ukraine and Israel package; the Israel-Hamas war and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza; the Russia-Ukraine war; the 2024 presidential race; a Michigan jury finds Jennifer Crumbley guilty of manslaughter; and Tucker Carlson’s visit to Moscow and his expected sit-down interview with Vladimir Putin were some of the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday, according to ongoing research from TALKERS magazine.

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WWO: AM/FM Radio Ads Provide 14% Average Lift in Site Traffic

This week’s Cumulus Media | Westwood One Audio Active Group blog looks at the results of 17 attribution studies the company commissioned from LeadsRX for AM/FM radio campaigns for various goods and services. Some of the conclusions drawn from these studies include: 1) On average, AM/FM radio campaigns generated a +14% lift in site traffic across the 17 campaigns. Campaigns are measured against LeadsRx benchmarks to determine the performance of attributed lift. The scale ranges from aim small attributed lift (0% to +3% lift) to excellent (+15% or more). Across the 17 campaigns analyzed, the average attributed lift was +14%. Three tax preparation service campaigns achieved “excellent” status ranging from a +30% to +48% attributed lift; 2) On average, the 17 AM/FM radio campaigns saw the highest percentage of impressions at the start of the week, peaking on Mondays and Tuesdays. Compared to the Nielsen impressions, the AM/FM radio campaigns outperformed on Saturday, Sunday, and Monday. Advertisers should increase their use of AM/FM radio on the weekends. AM/FM radio campaigns on weekends drive impact and results; and 3) On average, evenings have a greater share of attributed web sessions due to available devices and free time of consumers. Mornings historically underdeliver their share of impressions since consumers are busy getting ready for work and school. This expected pattern should not be a reason to move campaign weight out of morning drive. Morning drive exposure results in web sessions during later dayparts when consumers have the time and available devices to respond. Read the full blog post here.

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Audacy announces the launch of “One Handshake Away: Peter Bogdonavich & The Icons of Cinema,” a seven-part limited-run series featuring Academy Award-nominated director, writer, actor, producer, critic, and film historian Peter Bogdanovich in conversation with some of the greatest directors past and present including Orson Welles, Greta Gerwig, Quentin Tarantino, and Alfred Hitchcock from both new and never-before-heard archival interviews.

BIN: Black Information Network and iHeartMedia announce “Black Land,” a new podcast that will “look into the lives of ordinary people and bring to life their extraordinary tales of triumph and circumstance through the lens of community.” Hosted by Emmy-award winning, BIN: Black Information Network journalist Vanessa Tyler, the new series will dive deep into uncharted stories and give an overdue and deserving voice to those who have often experienced the other side of the American dream. Tony Coles, president, BIN: Black Information Network, says, “These stories are not just important – they are essential. We will continue to use this platform to amplify marginalized voices, foster understanding and contribute to a more inclusive, understanding, and compassionate world.”

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Yesterday’s (2/5) Top News/Talk Media Stories

House Republicans reject a bi-partisan plan to stop migration at the border in exchange for aid to Ukraine; today’s House vote on impeaching Homeland Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas; the 2024 presidential race; Secretary of State Anthony Blinken meets with Saudi crown prince to drum up support for Gaza cease fine; the heavy rains and mudslides in Southern California; MAGA’s Taylor Swift-NFL conspiracy theory; Donald Trump’s legal battles; the Fani Willis–Nathan Wade relationship; Toby Keith dies at 62 after a battle with cancer; and King Charles III steps away from official duties to undergo cancer treatment were some of the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday, according to ongoing research from TALKERS magazine.

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News/Talk Holiday 2022 & Holiday 2023 Overview

By Mike Kinosian
TALKERS magazine
Managing Editor

imLast week, we recapped how all-news stations have recently performed in Nielsen Audio‘s (volatile) “Holiday” PPM survey periods.

As a companion piece, the following summarizes ratings performances of news/talk stations in the two most recent “Holiday” sweeps.

“Holiday” 2022 – “Holiday” 2023 6+ Increase, 43%.

“Holiday” 2022 – “Holiday” 2023 6+ Decrease, 50%.

“Holiday” 2022 – “Holiday” 2023 6+ Flat, 7%.

Average “Holiday” 2022 – “Holiday” 6+ 2023 Increase, +.61.

Average “Holiday” 2022 – “Holiday” 6+ 2023 Decrease, -.98.

Typical “Holiday” 6+ Share, 3.19 (2022), versus 3.01 (2023).

Representative “Holiday” 6+ Market Rank, #12.42 (2022), versus #12.26 (2023).

News/Talk Composite 6+ Share/Rank Arranged By Market Size

                                    “Hol”      “Hol”

                                    2022       2023

WABC, New York                    3.1    #10    3.0    #11

KFI, Los Angeles                     4.4    #3     4.6    #4

WGN, Chicago                        2.8    #12    2.6    #11

WLS-AM, Chicago                   0.9    #24    1.7    #19

KSFO, San Francisco              1.7    #18    1.4    #22

WBAP, Dallas                         3.7    #8     2.8    #14

KTRH, Houston                      3.3    #12    2.6    #17

WSB-AM & WSBB, Atlanta      4.4    #7     7.4    #2

WMAL, Washington                3.4    #7     3.1    #9

WPHT, Philadelphia                0.8    #24    1.7    #19

WKXW, Philadelphia               1.2    #20    1.2    #23

WRKO, Boston                       2.8    #13    3.1    #9

KIRO-FM, Seattle                    5.5    #3     4.0    #6

KFYI, Phoenix                         3.3    #8     2.9    #8

KTAR-FM, Phoenix                 1.7    #22    2.2    #14

WJR, Detroit                          2.3    #15    2.4    #15

WCCO, Minneapolis                3.7    #12    3.8    #10

KTMY, Minneapolis                 3.1    #14    1.9    #17

KTLK, Minneapolis                 2.0    #17    1.6    #19

WHPT, Tampa                        3.7    #12    4.1    #7

WFLA, Tampa                         2.2    #17    3.2    #13

KOA, Denver                          2.4    #16    2.7    #14

KHOW, Denver                       1.5    #20    1.4    #19

KOGO, San Diego                   5.4    #5     3.9    #6

WABC, Long Island                 1.1    #21    1.1    #20

WBT, Charlotte                       3.7    #10    4.0    #9

KXL, Portland                         6.0    #5     4.9    #6

KEX, Portland                       2.2    #16    1.1    #21

WBAL, Baltimore                    3.6    #10    2.7    #11

WCBM, Baltimore                   1.6    #17    1.5    #17

WMAL, Baltimore                   0.6    #20    DNA  DNA

KMOX, St. Louis                     4.4    #9     2.8    #14

KFTK, St. Louis                      1.4    #17    1.5    #17

KTLK-FM, St. Louis                0.5    #23    1.1    #18

WOAI, San Antonio                 2.6    #13    2.4    #15

KTSA, San Antonio                 2.5    #14    1.8    #19

KSL, Salt Lake City                 4.6    #5     3.6    #9

KNRS, Salt Lake City              4.4    #6     2.2    #17

KFBK, Sacramento                 8.8    #2     6.1    #3

KSTE-AM, Sacramento            3.2    #8     2.1    #16

KLBJ-AM, Austin                    4.4    #5     4.1    #6

WTKS, Orlando                      5.1    #7     3.1    #12

WDBO, Orlando                     4.6    #8     3.1    #12

WFLF, Orlando                       0.7    #22    0.6    #20

KDKA-AM, Pittsburgh             2.8    #13    3.6    #8

KDKA-AM Stream, Pittsburgh 0.7    #19    0.4    #22

KDWN, Las Vegas                   2.3    #16    DNA  DNA

WLW, Cincinnati                    10.7   #1     10.8   #2

WKRC, Cincinnati                   2.8    #13    4.5    #6

KMBZ-FM, Kansas City           3.2    #11    4.1    #7

KCMO-AM, Kansas City          0.4    #25    1.8    #17

KMBZ-AM, Kansas City           1.4    #20    1.4    #19

WTAM, Cleveland                   4.6    #8     4.8    #8

WTVN, Columbus                   5.3    #8     4.5    #7

WTKK, Raleigh                       10.4   #2     5.0    #5

WIBC, Indianapolis                 5.7    #3     4.8    #8

KSFO, San Jose                     1.1    #22    1.5    #19

WWTN, Nashville                    4.9    #7     3.9    #12

WLAC, Nashville                     1.2    #17    1.2    #19

WKXW, Middlesex                   6.2    #4     5.7    #4

WOR, Middlesex                     0.4    #26    1.6    #15

WKXW-Stream, Middlesex       DNA  DNA  0.7    #20

WISN, Milwaukee                   8.8    #3     9.0    #1

WTMJ, Milwaukee                   6.2    #5     6.4    #5

WPRO-AM, Providence            4.5    #7     5.9    #5

WHJJ, Providence                   0.5    #18    0.8    #15

WNIS, Norfolk                        2.8    #11    2.0    #14

WOKV-FM, Jacksonville          6.1    #5     6.5    #3

WPTI, Greensboro                   3.2    #8     3.3    #8

WFTL, West Palm Beach         1.0    #15    2.1    #9

WZZR, West Palm Beach         1.7    #10    1.3    #13

WJNO, West Palm Beach        1.1    #13    0.6    #15

WREC, Memphis                    2.6    #13    1.0    #11

WKIM, Memphis                     2.1    #15    DNA  DNA

KWAM, Memphis                    0.4    #21    0.4    #13

WTIC-AM, Hartford                 5.1    #6     5.2    #6

WDRC-AM, Hartford               1.0    #17    1.5    #15

WTIC-AM-Stream, Hartford     0.2    #20    0.4    #19

WPOP, Hartford                      0.2    #20    DNA  DNA

“Holiday” 2023 6+ Share (Highest to Lowest)

WLW, Cincinnati                    10.8

WISN, Milwaukee                   9.0

WSB-AM & WSBB, Atlanta      7.4

WOKV-FM, Jacksonville          6.5

WTMJ, Milwaukee                   6.4

KFBK, Sacramento                 6.1

WPRO-AM, Providence            5.9

WKXW, Middlesex                   5.7

WTIC-AM, Hartford                 5.2

WTKK, Raleigh                       5.0

KXL, Portland                         4.9

WTAM, Cleveland                   4.8

WIBC, Indianapolis                 4.8

KFI, Los Angeles                     4.6

WKRC, Cincinnati                   4.5

WTVN, Columbus                   4.5

WHPT, Tampa                        4.1

KLBJ-AM, Austin                    4.1

KMBZ-FM, Kansas City           4.1

KIRO-FM, Seattle                    4.0

WBT, Charlotte                       4.0

KOGO, San Diego                   3.9

WWTN, Nashville                    3.9

WCCO, Minneapolis                3.8

KSL, Salt Lake City                 3.6

KDKA-AM, Pittsburgh             3.6

WPTI, Greensboro                   3.3

WFLA, Tampa                         3.2

WMAL, Washington                3.1

WRKO, Boston                       3.1

WDBO, Orlando                     3.1

WTKS, Orlando                      3.1

WABC, New York                    3.0

KFYI, Phoenix                         2.9

WBAP, Dallas                         2.8

KMOX, St. Louis                     2.8

KOA, Denver                          2.7

WBAL, Baltimore                    2.7

WGN, Chicago                        2.6

KTRH, Houston                      2.6

WJR, Detroit                          2.4

WOAI, San Antonio                 2.4

KTAR-FM, Phoenix                 2.2

KNRS, Salt Lake City              2.2

KSTE-AM, Sacramento            2.1

WFTL, West Palm Beach         2.1

WNIS, Norfolk                        2.0

KTMY, Minneapolis                 1.9

KTSA, San Antonio                 1.8

KCMO-AM, Kansas City          1.8

WLS-AM, Chicago                   1.7

WPHT, Philadelphia                1.7

KTLK, Minneapolis                 1.6

WOR, Middlesex                     1.6

WCBM, Baltimore                   1.5

KFTK, St. Louis                      1.5

KSFO, San Jose                     1.5

WDRC-AM, Hartford               1.5

KHOW, Denver                       1.4

KMBZ-AM, Kansas City           1.4

WZZR, West Palm Beach         1.3

WLAC, Nashville                     1.2

WABC, Long Island                 1.1

KTLK-FM, St. Louis                1.1

WREC, Memphis                    1.0

WHJJ, Providence                   0.8

WKXW-Stream, Middlesex       0.7

WFLF, Orlando                       0.6

WJNO, West Palm Beach        0.6

KWAM, Memphis                    0.4

WTIC-AM-Stream, Hartford     0.4

“Holiday” 2023 6+ Market Rank   

WISN, Milwaukee                   #1

WSB-AM & WSBB, Atlanta      #2

WLW, Cincinnati                    #2

KFBK, Sacramento                 #3

WOKV-FM, Jacksonville          #3

KFI, Los Angeles                     #4

WKXW, Middlesex                   #4

WTKK, Raleigh                       #5

WTMJ, Milwaukee                   #5

WPRO-AM, Providence            #5

KIRO-FM, Seattle                    #6

KOGO, San Diego                   #6

KXL, Portland                         #6

KLBJ-AM, Austin                    #6

WKRC, Cincinnati                   #6

WTIC-AM, Hartford                 #6

WHPT, Tampa                        #7

KMBZ-FM, Kansas City           #7

WTVN, Columbus                   #7

KFYI, Phoenix                         #8

KDKA-AM, Pittsburgh             #8

WTAM, Cleveland                   #8

WIBC, Indianapolis                 #8

WPTI, Greensboro                   #8

WMAL, Washington                #9

WRKO, Boston                       #9

WBT, Charlotte                       #9

KSL, Salt Lake City                 #9

WFTL, West Palm Beach         #9

WCCO, Minneapolis                #10

WABC, New York                    #11

WGN, Chicago                        #11

WBAL, Baltimore                    #11

WREC, Memphis                    #11

WDBO, Orlando                     #12

WTKS, Orlando                      #12

WWTN, Nashville                    #12

WFLA, Tampa                         #13

WZZR, West Palm Beach         #13

KWAM, Memphis                    #13

WBAP, Dallas                         #14

KTAR-FM, Phoenix                 #14

KOA, Denver                          #14

KMOX, St. Louis                     #14

WNIS, Norfolk                        #14

WJR, Detroit                          #15

WOAI, San Antonio                 #15

WOR, Middlesex                     #15

WHJJ, Providence                   #15

WJNO, West Palm Beach        #15

WDRC-AM, Hartford               #15

KSTE-AM, Sacramento            #16

KTRH, Houston                      #17

KTMY, Minneapolis                 #17

WCBM, Baltimore                   #17

KFTK, St. Louis                      #17

KNRS, Salt Lake City              #17

KCMO-AM, Kansas City          #17

KTLK-FM, St. Louis                #18

WLS-AM, Chicago                   #19

WPHT, Philadelphia                #19

KTLK, Minneapolis                 #19

KHOW, Denver                       #19

KTSA, San Antonio                 #19

KMBZ-AM, Kansas City           #19

KSFO, San Jose                     #19

WLAC, Nashville                     #19

WTIC-AM-Stream, Hartford     #19

WABC, Long Island                 #20

WFLF, Orlando                       #20

WKXW-Stream, Middlesex       #20

“Holiday” 2022 6+ Share (Highest to Lowest)

WLW, Cincinnati                   10.7

WTKK, Raleigh                      10.4

KFBK, Sacramento                8.8

WISN, Milwaukee                  8.8

WKXW, Middlesex                  6.2

WTMJ, Milwaukee                  6.2

WOKV-FM, Jacksonville         6.1

KXL, Portland                        6.0

WIBC, Indianapolis                5.7

KIRO-FM, Seattle                   5.5

KOGO, San Diego                  5.4

WTVN, Columbus                  5.3

WTKS, Orlando                     5.1

WTIC-AM, Hartford                5.1

WWTN, Nashville                   4.9

KSL, Salt Lake City                4.6

WDBO, Orlando                    4.6

WTAM, Cleveland                  4.6

WPRO-AM, Providence           4.5

KFI, Los Angeles                    4.4

WSB-AM & WSBB, Atlanta      4.4

KMOX, St. Louis                    4.4

KNRS, Salt Lake City             4.4

KLBJ-AM, Austin                   4.4

WBAP, Dallas                        3.7

WCCO, Minneapolis               3.7

WHPT, Tampa                       3.7

WBT, Charlotte                      3.7

WBAL, Baltimore                   3.6

WMAL, Washington                3.4

KTRH, Houston                     3.3

KFYI, Phoenix                        3.3

KSTE-AM, Sacramento           3.2

KMBZ-FM, Kansas City          3.2

WPTI, Greensboro                  3.2

WABC, New York                   3.1

KTMY, Minneapolis                3.1

WGN, Chicago                       2.8

WRKO, Boston                       2.8

KDKA-AM, Pittsburgh            2.8

WKRC, Cincinnati                  2.8

WNIS, Norfolk                       2.8

WOAI, San Antonio                2.6

WREC, Memphis                   2.6

KTSA, San Antonio                2.5

KOA, Denver                         2.4

WJR, Detroit                         2.3

KDWN, Las Vegas                  2.3

WFLA, Tampa                        2.2

KEX, Portland                       2.2

WKIM, Memphis                    2.1

KTLK, Minneapolis                2.0

KSFO, San Francisco             1.7

WZZR, West Palm Beach         1.7

WCBM, Baltimore                  1.6

KHOW, Denver                      1.5

KFTK, St. Louis                     1.4

KMBZ-AM, Kansas City          1.4

WKXW, Philadelphia               1.2

WLAC, Nashville                    1.2

WJNO, West Palm Beach         1.1

WFTL, West Palm Beach         1.0

WDRC-AM, Hartford              1.0

KDKA-AM Stream, Pittsburgh 0.7

WMAL, Baltimore                  0.6

WHJJ, Providence                  0.5

WPOP, Hartford                     0.2

WTIC-AM-Stream, Hartford     0.2

“Holiday” 2022 6+ Market Rank  

WLW, Cincinnati                   #1

KFBK, Sacramento                #2

WTKK, Raleigh                      #2

KFI, Los Angeles                    #3

KIRO-FM, Seattle                   #3

WIBC, Indianapolis                #3

WISN, Milwaukee                  #3

WKXW, Middlesex                  #4

KOGO, San Diego                  #5

KXL, Portland                        #5

KSL, Salt Lake City                #5

KLBJ-AM, Austin                   #5

WTMJ, Milwaukee                  #5

WOKV-FM, Jacksonville         #5

KNRS, Salt Lake City             #6

WTIC-AM, Hartford                #6

WSB-AM & WSBB, Atlanta      #7

WMAL, Washington                #7

WTKS, Orlando                     #7

WWTN, Nashville                   #7

WPRO-AM, Providence           #7

WBAP, Dallas                        #8

KFYI, Phoenix                        #8

KSTE-AM, Sacramento           #8

WDBO, Orlando                    #8

WTAM, Cleveland                  #8

WTVN, Columbus                  #8

WPTI, Greensboro                  #8

KMOX, St. Louis                    #9

WABC, New York                   #10

WBT, Charlotte                      #10

WBAL, Baltimore                   #10

WZZR, West Palm Beach         #10

KMBZ-FM, Kansas City          #11

WNIS, Norfolk                       #11

WGN, Chicago                       #12

KTRH, Houston                     #12

WCCO, Minneapolis               #12

WHPT, Tampa                       #12

WRKO, Boston                       #13

WOAI, San Antonio                #13

KDKA-AM, Pittsburgh            #13

WKRC, Cincinnati                  #13

WJNO, West Palm Beach         #13

WREC, Memphis                   #13

KTMY, Minneapolis                #14

KTSA, San Antonio                #14

WJR, Detroit                         #15

WFTL, West Palm Beach         #15

WKIM, Memphis                    #15

KOA, Denver                         #16

KEX, Portland                       #16

KDWN, Las Vegas                  #16

KTLK, Minneapolis                #17

WFLA, Tampa                        #17

WCBM, Baltimore                  #17

KFTK, St. Louis                     #17

WLAC, Nashville                    #17

WDRC-AM, Hartford              #17

KSFO, San Francisco             #18

WHJJ, Providence                  #18

KDKA-AM Stream, Pittsburgh #19

WKXW, Philadelphia               #20

KHOW, Denver                      #20

WMAL, Baltimore                  #20

KMBZ-AM, Kansas City          #20

WTIC-AM-Stream, Hartford     #20

WPOP, Hartford                     #20

“Holiday” 2023 6+ Fluctuation from “Holiday” 2022

WSB-AM & WSBB, Atlanta      +3.0

WKRC, Cincinnati                   +1.7

KCMO-AM, Kansas City          +1.4

WPRO-AM, Providence            +1.4

WOR, Middlesex                     +1.2

WFTL, West Palm Beach         +1.1

WFLA, Tampa                         +1.0

WPHT, Philadelphia                +.9

KMBZ-FM, Kansas City           +.9

WLS-AM, Chicago                   +.8

KDKA-AM, Pittsburgh             +.8

KTLK-FM, St. Louis                +.6

KTAR-FM, Phoenix                 +.5

WDRC-AM, Hartford               +.5

WHPT, Tampa                        +.4

KSFO, San Jose                     +.4

WOKV-FM, Jacksonville          +.4

WRKO, Boston                       +.3

KOA, Denver                          +.3

WBT, Charlotte                       +.3

WHJJ, Providence                   +.3

KFI, Los Angeles                     +.2

WTAM, Cleveland                   +.2

WISN, Milwaukee                   +.2

WTMJ, Milwaukee                   +.2

WTIC-AM-Stream, Hartford     +.2

WJR, Detroit                          +.1

WCCO, Minneapolis                +.1

KFTK, St. Louis                      +.1

WLW, Cincinnati                    +.1

WPTI, Greensboro                   +.1

WTIC-AM, Hartford                 +.1

WKXW, Philadelphia               Flat

WABC, Long Island                 Flat

KMBZ-AM, Kansas City           Flat

WLAC, Nashville                     Flat

KWAM, Memphis                    Flat

WTKK, Raleigh                       -5.4

KFBK, Sacramento                 -2.7

KNRS, Salt Lake City              -2.2

WTKS, Orlando                      -2.0

KMOX, St. Louis                     -1.6

WREC, Memphis                    -1.6

KIRO-FM, Seattle                    -1.5

KOGO, San Diego                   -1.5

WDBO, Orlando                     -1.5

KTMY, Minneapolis                 -1.2

KXL, Portland                         -1.1

KEX, Portland                       -1.1

KSTE-AM, Sacramento            -1.1

KSL, Salt Lake City                 -1.0

WWTN, Nashville                    -1.0

WBAP, Dallas                         -.9

WBAL, Baltimore                    -.9

WIBC, Indianapolis                 -.9

WTVN, Columbus                   -.8

WNIS, Norfolk                        -.8

KTRH, Houston                      -.7

KTSA, San Antonio                 -.7

WKXW, Middlesex                   -.5

WJNO, West Palm Beach        -.5

KFYI, Phoenix                         -.4

KTLK, Minneapolis                 -.4

WZZR, West Palm Beach         -.4

KSFO, San Francisco              -.3

WMAL, Washington                -.3

KLBJ-AM, Austin                    -.3

KDKA-AM Stream, Pittsburgh -.3

WGN, Chicago                        -.2

WOAI, San Antonio                 -.2

WABC, New York                    -.1

KHOW, Denver                       -.1

WCBM, Baltimore                   -.1

WFLF, Orlando                       -.1

Notes

  • News/talk stations appearing above typically posted a “Holiday” 2022 6+ share of 19, compared to “Holiday” 2023’s 3.01.
  • Even though news/talk’s year-to-year 6+ share dropped slightly, market rank managed to improve – albeit by a razor thin margin (#12.42 – #12.26, 6+).
  • Exactly half the news/talk stations in our sample (50%) faltered from “Holiday” 2022 – “Holiday” 2023, with the average dip roughly being a full-share (-.98).
  • Among all news/talk stations in the 48 PPM markets, Cincinnati’s WLW boasts the strongest 6+ share in “Holiday” 2023 (8) and “Holiday” 2022 (10.7).
  • Precisely four of every ten (40%) news/talk stations listed finished in the top ten (“Holiday” 2023, 6+), off marginally from “Holiday” 2022’s 43%.
  • Whereas WSB-AM & WSBB notches news/talk’s loftiest 6+ “Holiday” 2022 – “Holiday” 2023 gain (4.4 – 7.4, +3.0) – enabling “Atlanta’s News & Talk” to vault from seventh to second – WTKK suffers a more than 50% year-to-year erosion (10.4 – 5.0, -5.4, 6+), dropping from second in Raleigh to fifth.
  • All above data is based on news/talk stations that appeared in the top twenty in the “Holiday” 2022 and/or “Holiday” 2023 survey period.
  • “DNA” indicates a station “Did Not Appear” in that particular survey and/or wasn’t a Nielsen Audio subscriber in that sweep.

Contact managing editor Mike Kinosian at Mike.Kinosian@gmail.com

Industry Views

Monday Memo: Calculating Taylor Swift

By Holland Cooke
Consultant

imNow that every single thing is a political argument, the angry social media conversation about Taylor Swift is unsurprising. And with the Super Bowl looming, the decibel level amps-up.

So, kudos to SiriusXM and CNN host Michael Smerconish. I’ve previously cited him here as technique worth emulating when it comes to:

– Polling the audience on an ongoing basis (a sponsored feature on smart radio stations)
– Leveraging social media to give audience ownership of the show; and
– Genuine curiosity. His centrist approach earns him scorn from both sides in this Cold Civil War we’re living through. I can relate. When I managed WTOP, Washington, the quickest way to make the phone explode was to announce a crowd estimate for an abortion rally. Both sides jammed the lines to damn the number.

This preposterous Swift kerfuffle had been all heat until Smerconish shed light on it this past weekend. Noting rumors shared by FOX News that she would photobomb the Super Bowl with a Joe Biden endorsement, his poll question was “Could Taylor Swift determine the outcome of the presidential election?”

im

Just now, you answered that question in your own mind. But – for our purposes – the more useful approach is to consider information Smerconish curated unfiltered by personal politics:

– Swift has 279 million Instagram followers
– She has (so far) sold 4.35 million pricey tickets for The Eras Tour. Its “record-shattering revenue” (so far) is $1 billion+
– $200 million (so far) in tour merchandise. Her gray $45 T-shirt is now sold-out in all but 3XL and 4XL.
– 26 billion+ Spotify streams in 2023.
– SSRS polling: 59% of USA adults identify as Swift fans, 63% of women; and her fans are evenly divided 50/50 between Democrat or Dem-leaning and Republican or GOP-leaning.
– On her urging, several hundred thousand Americans younger than 25 have registered to vote.

Add it all up? “Taylor knows your social media interactions, where you saw her on tour, how much merch’ you’ve bought from her website, she knows the size of your T-shirt, the number of downloads you’ve made. We’re embarking on an election cycle which will be (a) the most expensive in history, and (b) will see much of the money spent on ‘micro-targeting,’ the use of online data to tailor – pun intended – advertising messages to individuals based on the identification of recipients’ personal vulnerabilities and interests. In order to target effectively, data is essential. And Taylor’s got lots and lots of it, and on a demographic that is exactly what the Biden team needs the most: disproportionally female, young, and passionate. With truly the touch of a button Taylor Swift is uniquely situated to use the data at her disposal to impact the presidential race.”

Leave it to your nerdy consultant to ask: Are WE using OUR listener data to OUR benefit?

Bigger-picture issues:

– Privacy: We have all volunteered LOTS of information about ourselves. Look what pops up in your email and your social media.
– Vulnerability of the Electoral vote process: The last two Republican presidents took office after losing the popular vote. Taylor Swift is my coastal Rhode Island neighbor, and if she votes here, neither of us matter. Our state has four electoral votes. Just 40 thousand-some popular votes in three key states gave Biden his 2020 win.
– Tone: The measurable appeal of Swift’s sunny disposition vs. “I am your retribution.”

Good for us. News/talk radio is in the suspense business. “What JUST happened??? What happens NEXT???” So, we should wish Nikki Haley well.

Inquisitive Smerconish sounds like dispassionate Mr. Spock: “What [Swift detractors on the right] should be worried about is her data.”

Holland Cooke (HollandCooke.com) is a consultant working at the intersection of broadcasting and the Internet. He is the author of “Close Like Crazy: Local Direct Leads, Pitches & Specs That Earned the Benjamins” and “Confidential: Negotiation Checklist for Weekend Talk Radio.” Follow HC on Twitter @HollandCooke and connect on LinkedIn.

Industry News

Nominees for 2024 iHeartPodcast Awards Revealed

iHeartMedia announces the nominees in 29 categories for this year’s iHeartPodcast Awards. iHeartMedia teamed up with South by Southwest (SXSW) Conference and Festivals to host the live and in-person ceremony in Austin at the Fairmont Hotel on March 11 at 9:00 pm. ET. The ceremony will also broadcast on select iHeartMedia radio stations nationwide, digitally through the iHeartRadio app andim video stream in partnership with YouTube on the iHeartRadio Channel. Podcast fans help decide the winner of the Podcast of the Year by voting online at iHeartPodcastAwards.com now through February 18. This year’s nominees include “Crime Junkie,” “The Daily,” “My Favorite Murder,” “New Heights,” “Normal Gossip,” “On Purpose with Jay Shetty,” “The Retrievals,” “Scamanda,” “SmartLess” and “Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus.” iHeartMedia Digital Audio Group CEO Conal Byrne says, “As the podcast industry continues to rapidly grow, this past year has clearly proven that podcasters are always innovating in the audio space and finding new ways to reach and engage new audiences. The nominees for the 2024 iHeartPodcast Awards reflect the results of honing that creativity and we’re thrilled to celebrate and once again empower these creators and elevate the podcast industry together live in person at SXSW.” See all the nominees here.

Industry News

Audacy and Veritonic Renew Relationship

Audacy and audio analytics and research platform Veritonic announce they have renewed their partnership. Audacy SVP of research and insights Idil Cakim comments, “Measuring the impact of ourim total Audio campaigns — including radio, streaming and podcast advertising— with Veritonic allows us to show the power of Audacy’s content in connecting with audiences and mobilizing customers. We’re thrilled to continue our partnership and enable our clients and advertising partners to leverage audio to achieve the utmost in competitive edge, reach, and ROI.”

Industry News

TALKERS News Notes

PodcastOne enters into a new agreement with Kelly Stafford for her “The Morning After with Kelly Stafford & Hank” podcast for exclusive distribution and advertising sales rights. The podcast starring the wife of LA Rams QB Matthew Stafford and Detroit TV news personality Hank Winchester launched in 2021 and joined the PodcastOne network in 2022. PodcastOne president and co-founder Kit Gray comments, “Kelly is a leading voice in the parenting influencer space. She has been a big part of our network, and we are thrilled to have her extend with us. We love the recent addition of Hank as co-host of ‘The Morning After’ and can’t wait to see where the show goes moving forward.”

GCN-syndicated talk host Dr. Daliah Wachs adds Jeri Lyn Broadcasting’s adult contemporary KHTS-AM/K251CF, Santa Clarita, California to its roster of affiliate stations. KHTS airs the program on Saturdays from 11:00 am to 1:00 pm.

Virtual News Center adds Four Corners Broadcasting, LLC’s five stations serving the Durango, Colorado market to is roster of affiliates. Local newscasts are being anchored by Sandi Conner.

Industry News

Top News/Talk Media Stories Over the Weekend

Negotiations in Congress over border legislation and aid to Ukraine and Israel; the U.S. military strikes Iran-backed groups in Iraq and Syria; MAGA’s Taylor Swift-NFL conspiracy theory; the 2024 presidential race; Donald Trump’s legal battles; the Fani Willis–Nathan Wade relationship; Sunday evening’s Grammy Awards; an atmospheric river drenches Southern California; and Apple’s Vision Pro headsets hit stores were some of the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media over the weekend, according to ongoing research from TALKERS magazine.

Industry News

Industry and Nation Mourn Death of Joe Madison

Talk radio host Joe Madison – also known for much of his career as The Black Eagle – died on Thursday (2/1) at 74 after a battle with cancer. His family released the following statement: “It is with a heavy heart that we announce the passing of our beloved husband and father, Joe Madison. He passed away peacefully at home surrounded by family. Joe dedicated his life to fighting for all those who are undervalued, underestimated, and marginalized. On air he often posed the question, ‘What are you going to do about it?’ Although he is no longer with us, we hope you will join us in answering that call by continuing to be proactive in the fight against injustice. The outpouring of prayers and support over the last few months lifted Joe’s spirits and strengthened us as a family. We continue to ask for privacy as we gather together to support each other through this difficult time.” Madison had been hosting the morning drive program on SiriusXM’s Urban View channel since 2008. Before he went into radio, Madison had become the youngest Detroit NAACP chapter leader at 24 years old. While Madison dabbled in radio while at Washington University in St. Louis, he first worked in commercial radio at Detroit’s WXYZ. From there he hosted a show on WWDB-FM, Philadelphia before moving to Washington, DC for a long stint at WWRC. He moved across town to Radio One-owned WOL, Washington where he hosted the afternoon drive show and served as program director. At this time, Radio One began syndicating his show nationally and it was simultaneously added to the lineup at SiriusXM. TALKERS founder Michael Harrison issued the following statement: “Joe Madison was one of the greatest of the greats among radio talk show hosts of the modern era. He transcended the role of ‘talent’ to rise among the ranks of America’s most influential civil rights thought leaders. His devoted following crossed the boundaries of race, age, gender, and politics. During his illustrious career, in addition to receiving countless awards in the fields of broadcasting and activism, he was a recipient of TALKERS magazine’s two most important honors, the Freedom of Speech Award and the Humanitarian of the Year Award. I am humbled to have had the privilege of this great man’s friendship for more than three decades and will treasure his inspiring memory for the rest of my days.”