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Yesterday’s (10/22) Top News/Talk Media Stories
The presidential race, including Kamala Harris’ scheduled Pennsylvania town hall on CNN and former Trump chief of staff John Kelly’s warning about Donald Trump’s “facism,” the escalation of violence in the Middle East, climate change, the economy, abortion rights, the migrant crisis, and the Russia-Ukraine war were some of the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday, according to ongoing research from TALKERS.
TRAVELIN’ MAN: Salem Radio Network’s Greg Clugston to Channel Charles Kuralt “On The Road”

Salem Radio Network’s White House correspondent Greg Clugston – pictured above by Air Force One steps- is set to board AF1 today (10/22) for his latest assignment: covering President Joe Biden at a Concord, New Hampshire event where Biden will address prescription drug prices in America. Following that event, with Election Day just two weeks away, Clugston will hit-the-highway in a car trip reminiscent of what Salem sources describe as the late Charles Kuralt’s long running “On The Road” series for CBS News. Some of Clugston’s itinerary will be:
• Driving to New York City to cover former President Donald Trump’s October 27th rally at Madison Square Garden; he will do advance reports for SRN News and TOWNHALL News during newscasts prior to start of the event.
• October 30th he will return to D.C. where he’ll serve as White House radio pool reporter for all national radio networks
• October 31st Clugston will commence a multi-day drive through the “Blue Wall” states of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. His tour will originate in Pennsylvania…and – given the Keystone State’s importance in the Presidential contest – he’ll file from Pennsylvania again on his return trip en route to Washington, D.C.
• November 5th he will anchor SRN’s Decision Desk providing non-stop results from the race for President of the United States as well as key House and Senate races which will determine control of both houses of the U.S. Congress.
“Greg Clugston’s depth of knowledge in national politics is second to none in media, and we are proud he is about to undertake this unique multi-city tour…which promises to deliver compelling, eye-level reporting from key states likely to determine the outcome of the 2024 campaign,” Tom Tradup, VP/news and talk programming for SRN tells TALKERS. “It will be a grueling few days on the road, but Greg’s energy and enthusiasm for this project will result in some of the best radio news reporting of this entire political year.” SRN News and TOWNHALL News are twin 24/7 national news networks which are each a division of Salem Media Group.
Part 2: Understanding Fair Use
TALKERS, VP/Associate Publisher
Harrison Media Law, Senior Partner
Goodphone Communications, Executive Producer
Incorporating copyrighted material, such as video clips or actualities, can enhance your content, but understanding fair use is critical to avoid legal trouble. Fair use permits limited use of copyrighted material for purposes like criticism, commentary, news reporting, or parody without needing permission. Courts assess fair use based on four factors: purpose and character of the use (is it transformative?), nature of the work (factual vs. creative), amount used, and the effect on the market. Learn practical tips on safely navigating fair use, including using brief excerpts, transforming content, and considering market impact.
This is the second in a series of articles addressing the broader topic of fair use for media creators. Click here for the first installment.
Understanding Fair Use: Purpose and Character of the Use. When using copyrighted material belonging to others in the creation of your own media content, it is important to understanding the concept of fair use. Fair use allows copyrighted material to be used without permission for purposes like criticism, commentary, news reporting, education, or parody. It’s not an absolute right but rather a defense you can claim if challenged. Courts assess fair use based on four key factors, all which broadcasters should carefully consider.
The first factor of fair use that courts consider is the purpose and character of the use. Specifically, is the use of the material transformative? Transformative use is a key concept that can often determine whether your content qualifies as fair use or not – and really is the heart of the inquiry.
What Does Transformative Mean? In legal terms, a use is considered transformative when it adds new expression, meaning, or message to the original work. This is different from merely copying the work or using it for the same purpose as the original creator. By transforming the material, you’re creating something that serves a different purpose or offers new insights, rather than simply replicating the original content.
Example: Auto-Tune the News. One of the most famous examples of transformative use is the Gregory Brothers’ viral “Auto-Tune the News” series, which turned news clips into catchy, auto-tuned songs. In 2010, they took an interview clip with Antoine Dodson, who was describing an attempted home invasion, and turned it into the widely popular “Bed Intruder Song.” In this case, the original news segment was purely factual—a straightforward broadcast of a local news report. However, by remixing the clip with auto-tuned vocals and adding music, the Gregory Brothers transformed the clip into a piece of entertainment and social commentary. This new purpose—entertainment and humor—was distinct from the original intent of simply delivering news, making it a classic example of transformative use. Although the raw news footage was copyrighted, the remix was so different in tone, presentation, and purpose that it was protected under fair use. The transformation added new creative elements and reframed the original material as a humorous, catchy song.
How Does This Apply to Radio? Let’s take this concept and apply it to radio, a medium that often uses clips from other sources. Imagine you’re running a talk show, and you want to use excerpts from a political speech to make a satirical point about current events. If you simply play the speech on air without any changes, it may not qualify as fair use because you haven’t transformed the original material – you’re just rebroadcasting it. However, if you take portions of the speech and then critique, analyze, or poke fun at it, you’re more likely to be in the clear. For example, if your show involves playing clips of political speeches interspersed with humorous commentary or parody, you’re repurposing the original work in a new and transformative way—much like “Auto-Tune the News.”
Another example could be a radio show that plays clips from popular songs but recontextualizes them within a larger discussion of musical trends or cultural history. If the song clips are used to illustrate a point and not simply for entertainment value, the new purpose—educational or critical analysis—can qualify the use as fair. In cases involving parody or political commentary on radio, the fair use defense has sometimes been successful. For instance, radio shows that use short clips from speeches, interviews, or news broadcasts for commentary, satire, or criticism can invoke fair use if the content is transformed for a new purpose.
One example is when talk radio shows play brief excerpts of copyrighted works (e.g., speeches, news clips) to critique or analyze them. If the use is transformative and doesn’t replace the original work in the marketplace (i.e., people wouldn’t listen to the radio show as a substitute for the original), courts have shown a willingness to accept fair use in such contexts. However, detailed legal battles involving radio stations using copyrighted material for parody or commentary are less common than those involving music licensing.
Example: Rogers v. Koons (Rebroadcast of News Content). While not as widely reported as music-related cases, one example of a copyright infringement suit involving the rebroadcast of talk content was a case where a news organization sued a radio station for replaying portions of its copyrighted interviews and reports without permission. In cases like this, radio stations or broadcasters may try to claim fair use based on the purpose of the rebroadcast, such as using a portion of an interview for commentary, satire, or news reporting. However, if the content is used purely to replay the original, as opposed to being transformed into a new, critical, or educational piece, the fair use defense may not succeed. For example, news stations may license their talk content (like interviews or original reporting) through syndication deals. If a radio station broadcasts this content without securing the necessary licensing agreement, they may face a copyright lawsuit.
Example: Talk Show Hosts and Syndicated Content. A real-world scenario can involve syndicated talk shows or podcasts that are copyrighted. Radio stations can face lawsuits if they replay this content without proper authorization. An example would be stations rebroadcasting popular talk radio shows or political commentaries (such as those by syndicated hosts like Rush Limbaugh or Howard Stern) without purchasing broadcast rights. This unauthorized use can lead to legal action from the copyright holders. For example, if a station replays clips of an interview conducted by NPR or a news network for entertainment or even news purposes, and it doesn’t transform the content for criticism or commentary, it may be violating copyright law. Radio companies might try to claim fair use, but the courts will look closely at whether the replay served a new, transformative purpose or was simply a verbatim rebroadcast.
Key Considerations for Broadcasters. To better understand whether your use of copyrighted content is transformative, ask yourself:
• Are you adding new meaning or message? The more your work transforms the original content – such as using it for commentary, criticism, or satire – the more likely it qualifies as fair use.
• Does your use serve a different purpose? If you’re using the content for a new purpose, like entertainment, education, or social commentary, rather than simply duplicating the original, it can be seen as transformative.
• Are you just using the original for its own sake? If the copyrighted material is used in a way that does not add new expression or meaning, it’s less likely to fall under fair use. Transformative use is a powerful defense in fair use claims, but it’s not a guarantee. Always make sure your purpose and character are different from the original intent of the work, and when in doubt, seek legal counsel.
Media attorney, Matthew B. Harrison is VP/associate publisher, TALKERS; Senior Partner, Harrison Media Law; and executive producer, Goodphone Communications. He is available for private consultation and media industry contract representation. He can be reached by phone at 724.484.3529 or email at matthew@harrisonmedialaw.com
SABO SEZ: Move or Die!
By Walter Sabo
A.K.A. Walter Sterling, Host
Sterling Every Damn Night, WPHT, Philadelphia
Sterling On Sunday, TMN
If a shark doesn’t swim, it dies. Radio is just fine, thank you, but it’s not swimming. Water, check. Tank, check, Sharks, check. Swimming to the next meal, nope. For the past 10 years at least, the radio show in every city is stuck in place and that sound in the distance that wakes you up at night is a death rattle.
The public perceives radio to be live, current, and local. Those three ingredients are the foundation of radio’s hundred years of success and the envy of all other media. That’s right – ALL. OTHER. MEDIA. Radio was born with the characteristics envied by newspapers, magazines, streaming, TV… name it.
The savior of the AM band was not a three-hour-a-day-host. The savior is all-news and local live. The FM formats that thrive and grow put up a live mirror to a city’s needs and tastes. Stations that sound like their city, and no other city, do not just win – they dominate. The radio shark is the forward momentum of urgent local information, new ideas, new jokes.
When asked, most people will say, “I don’t think I listen to the radio much…” But they do. The problem is radio is not top of mind. Why not? Because radio must demand listener attention with urgent, new ideas, entertainment, and information. “Your favorites from the 90s and today” isn’t doing that. Listen to air checks of the double-digit share legends of top 40 night-time radio. They weren’t so great. BUT in every single break they announced the names of local schools, listeners, events – every break with urgency. The more listener names, the higher their shares. Radio math. The more listener names, the more live local points of reference, the higher the audience share.
Consider the stunning ratings of too many NPR stations. What accounts for their growth trajectory? Clock the percentage of time your local NPR station spends presenting local news, local information, and new ideas.
Compare that with any other station in the city. In its own dreary way, most NPR stations deliver on the presumed benefits of the medium of radio: Local, live, urgent ideas. Yes, many commercial stations command major ratings for the same reason: All-news stations, and hybrids such as WSB, Atlanta; KRLD, Dallas; New Jersey 101.5, WABC, New York; KFI, Los Angeles; WTAM, Cleveland; WPHT Philadelphia.
It’s sacred geometry: The more often a listener hears about their local, daily life, the higher go the ratings.
Consultant Walter Sabo A.K.A. Walter M Sterling has a nightly show “Sterling Every Damn Night” heard on WPHT, Philadelphia 9:00 pm – 12:00 midnight. His syndicated show, “Sterling On Sunday,” from Talk Media Network, airs Sundays 10:00 pm – 1:00 am ET, and is now in its 10th year of success. He can be reached by email at waltermsterling@gmail.com or Sabowalter@gmail.com.
Yesterday’s (10/21) Top News/Talk Media Stories
The election was front and center yesterday (10/21) as the rhetoric, mudslinging, and atypical campaign environment intensifies. Former President Donald Trump’s cosplay at McDonalds and observations of schlongology (Jeffrey Epstein and Arnold Palmer) were highlights of the day’s conversation . The escalation of violence in the Middle East, climate change, the economy, abortion rights, the migrant crisis, and the Russia-Ukraine war were also among the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday (10/22), according to ongoing research from TALKERS.
MONDAY MEMO: Bleep?
By Holland Cooke
Consultant

As the Dodgers celebrated the win that advanced them to the National League Championship Series, a FOX Sports TV reporter asked LA’s Enrique Hernandez, “What made this team so special?” First checking, “Are we live?” Hernandez replied, “The fact that we don’t give a f**k!” (which was not bleeped).
Earlier that day vice presidential candidate Tim Walz campaigned in Michigan. Reacting to disparaging remarks Donald Trump had made ABOUT Detroit IN Detroit, Walz quipped “All’s they know about manufacturing is manufacturing bullshit.”
Later that evening, Bill Maher delivered the amusingly plainspoken experience his HBO viewers paid to opt-into. Next day, his uncensored vocabulary jumped to basic cable, via CNN’s free-with-commercials rebroadcast. I’ve heard a CNN talking head say “asshole” – and panelists on other cable news channels now say “bullshit” nonchalantly.
So WHERE IS The Line? For this week’s column, I asked around.

To read Holland Cooke’s complete column, please click here.
Holland Cooke (HollandCooke.com) is a consultant working the intersection of broadcasting and the Internet. He is the author of “The Local Radio Advantage: Your 4-Week Tune-In Tune-Up” and “Close Like Crazy: Local Direct Leads, Pitches & Specs That Earned the Benjamins” and “Confidential: Negotiation Checklist for Weekend Talk Radio.” Follow HC on Twitter @HollandCooke and connect on LinkedIn
MONDAY MEMO: Bleep?
By Holland Cooke
Consultant

As the Dodgers celebrated the win that advanced them to the National League Championship Series, a FOX Sports TV reporter asked LA’s Enrique Hernandez what made this team so special.
First checking “Are we live?” Hernandez replied, “The fact that we don’t give a f**k!” (which was not bleeped).
Earlier that day vice presidential candidate Tim Walz campaigned in Michigan. Reacting to disparaging remarks Donald Trump had made ABOUT Detroit IN Detroit, Walz quipped “All’s they know about manufacturing is manufacturing bullshit.”
Later that evening, Bill Maher delivered the amusingly plainspoken experience his HBO viewers paid to opt-into. Next day, his uncensored vocabulary jumped to basic cable, via CNN’s free-with-commercials rebroadcast. I’ve heard a CNN talking head say “asshole;” and panelists on other cable news channels now say “bullshit” nonchalantly.
Call me a prude, but I make my living improving the results businesses get by advertising on radio stations I consult…because listeners keep listening. Lotsa luck if they don’t hear the commercial…because they tuned out…because they have kids in the car.
Admittedly, by simply uttering a term as antique as “prude,” I risk seeming late.
Why I wince when I hear “pissed off” on the air? That’s grown-up talk Homer and Marge Listener might use when Bart and Lisa and Maggie aren’t around. And my clients can recite my spiel about how “parents with children of any age still living at home are the super-spenders local retailers want to meet.” So, wouldn’t “irked” or “chagrined” or “miffed” do?
I asked around…

Salem Media Group CEO David Santrella: “I couldn’t agree more. I’ve never been asked why I DIDN’T use foul language, but a few times, on the occasion that I did, I have been asked why I chose those words. That’s always ended with me needing to apologize.”
Consultant Mike McVay hears “a continual downgrading generation-to-generation of what’s acceptable.” He recalls, “When I was eight years old, some older kids were laughing about the ‘F Word’ being written in chalk on a sidewalk. I asked my mother what it meant. She was horrified. Today it is used in off-air conversation casually. It’s used in many songs” radio plays.
Evolution? Devolution?
TALKERS publisher Michael Harrison observes how “the potency of these words has changed over the years. Words like ‘hell,’ ‘damn,’ or even ‘bitch’ were no-no’s.” Now, political correctness has us on the verge of saying what we allude to with initials, “the ‘N’ word, the ‘R’ word, and the ‘F’ word.”
Veteran network radio and TV anchor Ted David reckons that “language is a dynamic thing. ‘Scumbag’ — which meant a condom — is now universally accepted. ‘Sucks’ used to mean fellatio. And in Europe the ‘C’ word is frequently uttered in public. How long till here?”
McVay recalls: “One of my adult children recently used the phrase ‘pissed off’ in a public setting. I said, ‘Not appropriate.’ She said, ‘I didn’t think of it as profanity’ and apologized.”
Is it just a matter of time?
Among Mike’s daughter’s demographic cohort, WJNK VP and Jessamine County Living Magazine president Brittany Moses: “With the changing media landscape, listeners are more conditioned to hearing language we would have gasped at even 5-10 years ago. I do think that while there should be some limitations for the ‘family’ stations, I could see the broadcast community getting more lax on language. I think it’ll be inevitable. SXM, podcasts, etc. are already moving that direction.”
Even as Bill Maher‘s vocabulary leaks from HBO to CNN, Arkansas Broadcasters Association executive director Neal Gladner draws a line: “Where someone is paying to listen to a specific program, I presume they know what they’re going to get and those are not advertiser-based offerings. It’s a different set of concerns.” For broadcasters? “Whether it’s a morning talk show or news on a cable network, I think the best rule to apply is would you use that language in front of your grandmother?”
WABC’s Joe Connolly is among dozens of WDRC/Hartford alumni who advanced to major market success. He recalls venerable PD Charlie Parker‘s advice to “imagine the people listening as a family watching a parade – grandparents, parents and kids.” Joe says “I’ve followed that advice ever since. It hasn’t hurt my career one bit.”
How did we get here?
Lisa Gache has advised Oscar-winning celebrities, and high-profile brands such as Mattel, Tiffany & Co., Burberry, TJX Companies, American Girl, Beverly Wilshire and the Hotel Bel-Air.
“People are negative. They’re angry, they’re fed up, they’re impatient, they’re right and they’re not taking it anymore. And this is what we’re hearing reflected in our vocabulary. It’s everywhere, it’s crass and it’s uncomfortable. But it did not begin with Trump.”
Her advice? “Managing the cringe can only occur through leading by example. This is why I always try to clean up my side of the street first and be the role model I’d like to see in the world. I never tell anyone what to do (including offering advice), unless you’re my kid or you’ve hired me to instruct you.” Gache adds, “And while we’re on the subject of foul language, I have to admit I started watching VEEP again, and the expletive-laden analogies they spew, one after the other, is some of the smartest dialogue I’ve ever encountered! I cannot stop laughing because it’s too good and it works. But this is the celluloid world and in the real word, you just can’t do that!”
Holland Cooke (HollandCooke.com) is a consultant working the intersection of broadcasting and the Internet. He is the author of “The Local Radio Advantage: Your 4-Week Tune-In Tune-Up” and “Close Like Crazy: Local Direct Leads, Pitches & Specs That Earned the Benjamins” and “Confidential: Negotiation Checklist for Weekend Talk Radio.” Follow HC on Twitter @HollandCooke and connect on LinkedIn
Harris FOX Interview Delivers Blockbuster Ratings
Ideology and, as Michael Harrison calls it, “the daily dance of affirmation” aside – perhaps there’s something to be said about booking “opposition” political luminaries as guests on our industry’s highly “targeted” venues. FOX News Channel’s (FNC) “Special Report with Bret Baier” delivered 7.8 million viewers and 1,126,000 in the 25-54 demo during anchor Bret Baier’s exclusive interview with VP Kamala Harris from 6:00 pm – 6:30 pm ET this past Wednesday (10/6), according to Nielsen Media Research. The interview marked the highest rating of the Harris-Trump political season, outrating Harris’s individual appearances on “60 Minutes,” “The View,” “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert,” CNN and MSNBC. For the full 6:00 pm ET hour, “Special Report” drew 6.7 million viewers and 901,000 in the 25-54 demo. Combined with the show’s midnight airing 12:00 midnight -12:30 am ET, the interview with VP Harris nabbed 9.2 million viewers and 1.4 million in the 25-54 demo, beating ABC’s interview with President Joe Biden before he dropped out of the race (8.5 million viewers). FNC averaged more than 12 million viewers on Wednesday between all three airings of its interviews with VP (6:00 pm ET and 12:00 midnight ET) and its town hall with former President Donald Trump (11:00 am -12:00 noon ET). Interestingly, according to Nielsen Media Research, Pittsburgh, PA was the top-rated market in the country for the interview.
2024 Presidential Race Taking on Historic Role as Nation’s First “Podcast Election”

Although news/talk radio, cable news/talk TV and all other platforms still lumped under the heading of “legacy” or “mainstream” media remain collectively powerful as venues of exposure for the national conversation in this crucial political year, the 2024 presidential race has significantly elevated podcasting to a seat at the table of influence drawing ongoing guest appearances by the major party candidates. Pictured above: OutKick’s “Maintaining with Tyrus” podcast hosted by George “Tyrus” Murdoch. Murdoch is a FOX News Channel (FNC) contributor and a New York Times best-selling author. The interview was recorded this morning (10/18) at Trump Tower in New York City and can be viewed here.
Podcast industry expert/media writer Ashley Carman aptly describes this year’s cycle as the first real “podcast election” in her Bloomberg Newsletter column. Carman credits the following factors in fueling the rise of podcasting in the presidential arena:
The number of people listening to podcasts monthly has more than doubled since 2016. An estimated 135 million people listen to a podcast monthly while 98 million listen weekly, according to Edison Research’s “Infinite Dial” study this year. This is a significant uptick from 2016 when Trump first ran for president. At that time, 21% of Americans over the age of 12 said they’d listened to a podcast monthly. This year that figure is 47%. The reach of the medium continues to grow. At this point, it’s basically mainstream.
Monthly podcast listeners have more than doubled since the 2016 election. Source: Edison Research “The Infinite Dial 2024”
People trust podcasters. A few different studies suggest people trust podcasters more than other media personalities, particularly when it comes to hearing about the news. Research from Deloitte last year found that 75% of surveyed respondents said they agreed with the statement, “I trust the podcast hosts I listen to.” Pew Research found last year that most people who get news from podcasts either say they trust that news more than the news they receive from other sources (31%) or trust it about the same (55%). We typically see this play out through podcast product endorsements, the backbone of the industry. Promo codes on podcasts have become a parody at this point, but the reality is that they work. People often take action when a podcaster throws their weight behind a product, and if having a guest on counts as a tacit endorsement of sorts, listeners are likely going to pay attention. Podcasters have also turned into superstars in their own right, inspiring fans to spend money to see them live and demonstrating how committed people are to the programs. Just this past week, The Rest Is Politics sold out the O2 arena in London. Some 13,000 fans attended. In August, the popular US-based podcast, “Kill Tony,” performed at Madison Square Garden over two nights. Those events generated $2.4 million in gross revenue with over 25,000 tickets sold, according to Pollstar.
Podcast hosts can influence their audience more than other media formats. Source: Deloitte Digital Media Trends, 17th edition (April 2023)
Young people, and yes, men, are spending time listening to podcasts. Much of the coverage around Trump’s and Vance’s podcast appearances has centered on their efforts to reach young men. More generally, young people are spending time listening to podcasts. Last year, of people between the ages of 13 and 24, 77% had at some point listened to a podcast, according to Edison Research and SXM Media, and 47% had listened to one in the last month. From that same study, men and boys listened slightly more than women and girls in a month — 53% compared to 46%.
Political messaging. But perhaps greater than any single data point is the general recognition of how well the podcast format suits political messaging. Anyone who has listened to a general interview podcast knows these shows often allow guests to speak at length, without interruption, making it an ideal venue for a politician to communicate beyond their worn-out soundbites. Few other media formats provide this kind of access to Gen Z for such prolonged periods of time.
To read Ashley Carman’s entire column, please click here.
Erick Erickson Plays Both Sides of the Field
95.5 WSB, Atlanta (and nationally syndicated) TALKERS Heavy Hundred star, Erick Erickson is giving both sides an airing today (10/18) in his midday show that he’s broadcasting from the parlor in the Texas Governor’s Mansion (see pic at left) before UGA battles University of Texas tomorrow. He tells TALKERS, he’ll have on both Governors Gregg Abbott (R-TX) and Brian Kemp (R-GA) to talk about the border, the election, and football.
NYF and PushDesign Celebrate the Power of Storytelling: Unveiling the “What Defines Greatness” Campaign
New York Festivals Radio and TV & Film Awards have launched the 2025 multi-platform call for entries campaign for the annual competitions which culminate in the Storytellers Gala every spring. The two themes of the eight-video campaign are “What Defines Greatness” and “Sounds Over The Years.” Together they celebrate a stand-out all-star list of innovative NYF winners through the years: My Octopus Teacher, Peaky Blinders, The Olympics, Done+Dusted, CBS Radio News, The Beatles Channel, Das Boot, A Capitol Fourth, The New York Philharmonic, CBC News, Molly Solomon, Marvin Kalb, and Donna de Varona. “PushDesign’s Emmy-award winning creative work is a perfect match for NYF,” said Rose Anderson, EVP of New York Festivals and executive director of the TV & Film and Radio Awards Competitions. “These high energy sizzle reels let you see and hear what NYF winners are all about – enthusiasm, excitement, and excellence.” “The New York Festivals has a global reach, is peer judged, and honors industry legends” said Rob Tobin, founder and creative director of PushDesign, “We wanted to let the programs and winners speak for themselves to inspire entrants.” The 2025 Grand Jury panel selection process is underway, and the TV & Film and Radio Grand Juries will be announced on October 23. The New York Festivals TV & Film and Radio Awards competitions receive entries from over 50 countries. Members of the Grand Jury panels vote to determine the Shortlists and final standings for Tower Trophies. The 2025 Storytellers Gala will honor trophy winners of both competitions in the spring. The official deadline to enter the 2025 New York Festivals TV & Film Awards is December 31, 2024. For more information on the 2025 TV & Film Awards visit: https://tvf.newyorkfestivals.com/. The official deadline to enter the 2025 Radio Awards is January 31, 2025. For more information on the 2025 Radio Awards winners visit: https://radiohome.newyorkfestivals.com/
TALKERS News Notes
Andrea Mitchell to Receive Prestigious Award. Alliance for Women in Media (AWM) has announced that Andrea Mitchell, NBC News chief foreign affairs correspondent and chief Washington correspondent, will be honored with the prestigious Gracies Icon Award at the 2024 Gracies Leadership Awards. The awards luncheon will take place on Tuesday, November 19, at Tribeca 360° in New York City. The 2024 Gracies Leadership Awards will also celebrate previously announced honorees, including Sylvia Bugg, Sonia Coleman, Jennifer Leimgruber, Deborah Parenti, Jen Sargent, and Holly Tang. In addition, Sylvia Strobel will be recognized with the Legacy Leadership Award for her significant contributions to the industry and the Alliance for Women in Media. For tickets and more information about the Gracies Leadership Awards, please visit their website.
Radio One Charlotte Hosts “Help One Another” Radiothon.
Radio One Charlotte, in partnership with Second Harvest Food Bank of Metrolina, is presenting an all-day radiothon today (10/17) to support those affected by Hurricane Helene. This event is taking place from 6:00 am to 7:00 pm across Radio One Charlotte stations: WOSF, WFNZ, WLNK, WPZS, WOSF-HD2 and heritage news/talk WBT. Marsha Landess, Radio One Charlotte regional VP, tells TALKERS, “We are focusing the power of our six radio stations to help raise funds for the relief efforts for our neighbors in the western part of our state. We know their lives have been turned upside down, and we want to do our part to assist them in rebuilding and recovering. Our goal is to raise a substantial amount to help them begin to put their lives back together. Every dollar counts, whether large or small.” Kay Carter, CEO of Second Harvest Food Bank of Metrolina, adds, “Everyone at Second Harvest Food Bank of Metrolina is so grateful to Radio One for all their efforts to assist us as we work to help the many victims of Hurricane Helene. The needs are great, and we want to thank all the radio stations and their listeners for considering a donation to the Radiothon. We promise to use the donations wisely to provide food and other supplies throughout the affected areas.”
Cox Media Group Provides Nearly $1 Million Plus Critical Support For Hurricane Relief Including Meals, Water, Money and Other Assistance.
Even as its stations were airing hundreds of hours of continuous live news and storm coverage during hurricanes Helene and Milton, Cox Media Group (CMG) was raising nearly $1 million and providing food, water and necessities for impacted people and communities. That includes taking mobile charging stations into communities for people to charge their phones and other devices. Hurricane relief efforts took place across CMG’s southeast TV and Radio stations. “These efforts by our CMG family highlight the indispensable role of our stations – and our entire broadcasting industry – as we work together to make a powerful and positive impact on the communities we live in and serve,” said Dan York, CMG’s president/CEO. “As importantly, none of this would have been possible without the incredible support from our local partners and audiences. The response of our viewers and listeners has been nothing short of remarkable.” CMG radio stations include news/talker WDBO 107.3 / AM 580 in Orlando.
Clay Travis Broadcasts from News Radio 570 WWNC, Asheville, NC to Support Hurricane Relief.
Premiere Networks personality Clay Travis co-hosted “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show” live from affiliate News Radio 570 WWNC in Asheville, NC (10/11). Travis toured the area via helicopter to witness the extensive damage from Hurricane Helene in an effort to continue raising awareness, funds and volunteers for hurricane relief that will be needed for months to come. During the visit, WWNC morning host/news director Mark Starling joined the broadcast for a powerful conversation about the devastation the community has experienced. He detailed how the station covered Hurricane Helene, providing vital information to the Asheville community including coordinating rescue efforts and reuniting families. Starling, who stayed at the station for 14 days straight during the hurricane, said: “…when TV couldn’t do it, the newspaper couldn’t do it, there was nothing online, the only thing left was AM/FM radio. All seven stations stayed on the air simulcasted… we were wall-to-wall…what we wanted to do here at the radio station, at iHeart Asheville, was we wanted to show the community that we can get through this. And we’ve been kind of repeating this line: ‘community is the answer to this crisis.’ …what we have seen is the absolute best in humanity in an absolute horrific, horrific time.” Listen to their full conversation HERE.
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Yesterday’s (10/16) Top News/Talk Media Stories
A flurry of high-profile political interviews dotted the news/talk media landscape again yesterday highlighted by VP Kamala Harris’s appearance on FOX News Channel solidifying the presidential race as the dominant topic. There was also a lot of discussion about former President Donald Trump’s musical “love fest.” The aftermath of the hurricanes remained among the most talked-about stories sparked by numerous radio-oriented relief efforts. The escalation of violence in the Middle East, climate change, the economy, abortion rights, the migrant crisis, the Russia-Ukraine war, and the MLB playoffs were also among the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday (10/16), according to ongoing research from TALKERS.
Former U.S. Sen. Doug Jones (D-AL) to Host Special Live Show for SiriusXM’s Progress Channel Tomorrow (10/17)
SiriusXM announced today that Doug Jones, former Democratic senator from Alabama, will host a special program exclusively for SiriusXM’s Progress channel tomorrow evening (10/17).
“The CloakRoom with Former Senator Doug Jones” will air live tomorrow from 6:00 pm – 8:00 pm ET on channel 127. According to company sources, with just a few weeks remaining before the November 5 elections, Senator Jones will engage with Progress listeners, taking calls to discuss the pressing news stories of the day. He’ll also leverage his personal political experience to analyze the key senatorial races, as well as the presidential election. In addition, the former senator will be joined by Julie Chavez Rodriguez, VP Kamala Harris’s campaign manager, as well as a surprise guest. “The stakes in this election could not be any higher,” Jones tells TALKERS. “I can’t think of a better way to talk directly with voters nationwide and have real conversations about the issues at the top of their minds as we head into Election Day. As a regular guest on SiriusXM’s Progress channel, I know they have a passionate audience with a lot of important, fresh subjects to discuss, so this should be a lot of fun.” The show will have its first run live during the usual time slot of “The Dean Obeidallah Show.”
The special will also replay multiple times throughout the week and will be available anytime on demand on the SiriusXM app. Progress is SiriusXM’s channel dedicated to amplifying progressive viewpoints. The channel features a wide range of voices including Zerlina Maxwell, Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartmann, Michelangelo Signorile, Dean Obeidallah, John Fugelsang, and more. Photo by Joy Asico-Smith / AP for SiriusXM.
Community Broadcasters Raises $127,098 in South Carolina Pee Dee Region Radiothon to Benefit McLeod Children’s Hospital
The 22nd annual Children’s Miracle Network Radiothon benefitting McLeod Children’s Hospital was recently held in Florence, SC. During the Radiothon, Community Broadcasters’ stations WWKT 99.3 The Cat, (news/talker) WFRK Live 95.3, WPDT Almighty 105.1 and WSIM 93.7 Frank FM hosted live broadcasts from McLeod Children’s Hospital. Pictured above: former SC Lt. Gov. Ken Ard and station VP operations Dave Baker (r) during broadcast on news/talk Live 95. “As always, at Community Broadcasters, we are always doing our best to live up to our name, and stand for the communities that we broadcast in,” company VP Wayne Mulling tells TALKERS. “And we are proud of what we have been able to do in hosting the Children’s Miracle Network Radiothon each year to raise funds for McLeod Children’s Hospital and Children’s Miracle Network. We are humbled by the amount of people that have been helped directly through the years by these organizations, and glad to play a small part in keeping this active and ongoing to continue to help others every year. We invite you to be a part as well.” DJs and talk show hosts asked listeners for donations in support of the programs and technology that McLeod offers to families in the Pee Dee. Listeners also had the opportunity to hear real stories from those who have benefited directly from the McLeod Children’s Hospital, in addition to interviews with doctors, nurses and employees who all share the same passion. “What an exciting Radiothon we had this year raising more than $127,000 for the McLeod Children’s Hospital!” says Davis Sawyer, Children’s Hospital fund manager. “The hard work and dedication from all involved truly make a difference in the lives of the children treated in McLeod Children’s Hospital. I value the partnership and friendship we have with Community Broadcasters and look forward to growing this partnership as we continue to impact the children we serve.” There was also a live auction throughout the week, with some bids surpassing $500. Auction items were donated from collegiate and professional sports teams, nationally known musicians and local businesses. At the conclusion of the Radiothon, this year’s donations equaled $127,098. All donations will remain here in the Florence area to help fund life-saving McLeod programs, and purchase new technology to better serve the Pee Dee families. To learn more about the annual Radiothon, check out this year’s sponsors, or make a donation, visit myradiothon.com
Yesterday’s (10/15) Top News/Talk Media Stories
A flurry of high-profile political interviews dotted the news/talk media landscape yesterday solidifying the presidential race as the dominant topic. The aftermath of the hurricanes remained among the most talked-about stories sparked by numerous radio-oriented relief efforts. The escalation of violence in the Middle East, climate change, the economy, abortion rights, the migrant crisis, the Russia-Ukraine war, and the MLB playoffs were also among the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday (10/15), according to ongoing research from TALKERS.
Yesterday’s (10/14) Top News/Talk Media Stories
The aftermath of Hurricanes Helene and Milton in Florida were still the most talked-about stories focusing on the negative impact of misinformation about the damage and relief, as well as the attacks on FEMA personnel, followed closely by the presidential race with a spotlight on the intensifying vitriol. The escalation of violence in the Middle East, climate change, the economy, abortion rights, the migrant crisis, the Russia-Ukraine war, Columbus Day, and the MLB playoffs were also among the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday (10/14), according to ongoing research from TALKERS.
iHeartMedia to Host “We the People: An Audio Townhall with VP Kamala Harris and Charlamagne Tha God” Tomorrow (10/15) at 5:00 pm ET
iHeartMedia and multimedia mogul Charlamagne Tha God, on air host of New York’s Power 105’s popular, nationally syndicated hit radio show “The Breakfast Club” announced “We the People: An Audio Townhall with Kamala Harris and Charlamagne Tha God” an hour-long town hall-style event hosted live in Detroit tomorrow (10/15) at 5:00 pm ET. Just 25 days before the 2024 elections, iHeartRadio’s Charlamagne Tha God will have what is being described as an important and thought-provoking discussion with the Democratic nominee for President of the United States on a variety of significant topics about the election. In addition to a thorough discussion about the election, Vice President Harris will answer some questions from voters across the country. Our listeners are very passionate,” said Charlamagne during his morning show. “I want local voices from Detroit and voices from all the battleground states to get the opportunity to ask Vice President Kamala Harris some questions. I know we got some pressing issues to talk about. The future of the nation is decided by who we elect.” The town hall will broadcast live and stream across 130 iHeartRadio stations nationwide and on the iHeartRadio App at iHeartRadio.com/WeThePeople. It will be available on demand following the live broadcast at iHeartRadio.com/WeThePeople. Listeners can also follow @BreakfastClubAM and @iHeartRadio on social platforms for the latest news and info. Listeners can submit their questions to VP Harris right now by downloading the iHeartRadio app and using the Talk Back function. Listeners can simply click the microphone icon on their favorite iHeartRadio station, record their question and hit “send.”
Yesterday’s (10/10) Top News/Talk Media Stories
The aftermath of Hurricanes Helene and Milton in Florida were still the most talked-about stories, followed closely by the presidential race with a spotlight on the Trump–Putin Covid-19 connection. The escalation of violence in the Middle East, climate change, the economy, abortion rights, the migrant crisis, the Russia-Ukraine war, and the MLB playoffs were also among the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday (10/10), according to ongoing research from TALKERS.
Michael Berry Interviews WWNC, Asheville PD Mark Starling

Premiere Networks and TALKERS top 10 Heavy Hundred-star Michael Berry interviewed Mark Starling, morning host and news director of iHeart’s WWNC, Asheville, NC yesterday (10/9) about his broadcast team’s experience serving the public while surviving themselves during the wrath of Hurricane Helene. Berry tells TALKERS, “The WWNC staffers were stranded inside their studios in Asheville during the worst of the storm. They rose to the occasion, reminding everyone why radio matters more than ever. Not just the medium, the people who create the magic. He explains why this storm proves we need AM radio in our cars. It saved lives.” Berry adds, “I want every congressman and senator to hear this. Starling tells about his family being stranded in rising water, trying to get to them and safety, and he and his entire station were flooded in the building, unable to get out. They had no power, internet, nothing. Radio at its best. Humanity at its best. Grace.” To listen to a podcast of the conversation between Berry and Starling, please click here.
To read a comprehensive story in the Asheville Citizen-Times about WWNC’s role in the storm, please click here.
TALKERS News Notes
Newsmax Now on YouTube TV. Newsmax joins YouTube TV’s pay TV lineup of major cable channels as of noon ET yesterday (10/9). YouTube TV is the linear pay TV service of the ubiquitous video streamer and one of the fastest-growing virtual cable services in the nation. Now Newsmax, the 4th highest-rated cable news channel, will be available to subscribers of YouTube TV’s Base Plan. YouTube TV lists its channels alphabetically, so viewers will find Newsmax under the “N” listings. Subscribers can also personalize their lineup using personal channel preferences. Wednesday’s addition of YouTube TV places Newsmax in nearly 60 million pay TV homes, putting it in the top tier of cable network reach. Newsmax is already carried by all major cable operators, including Directv, Xfinity, Dish, Spectrum, Cox, Optimum and more.

Radio’s John Clay Wolfe and Podcaster Adam Carolla Purchase Paul Newman’s 1976 Racing Ferrari. Former radio and now podcasting icon Adam Carolla and nationally syndicated radio host John Clay Wolfe are both car aficionados and friends. Adam actually races and owns a collection of Paul Newman’s race cars while John Clay Wolfe is president/founder of “Give Me the VIN,” a $2 billion annual revenue wholesale car company. Recently they partnered on the purchase of Paul Newman’s 1976 Racing Ferrari, thus completing Adam’s collection. This is the first car the duo has purchased together. They did a video about it, complete with radio interviews… “Celebrity Car VAULT: Paul Newman’s Ferrari 308.” Check it out here.
Yesterday’s (10/9) Top News/Talk Media Stories
The aftermath of Hurricanes Helene and Milton in Florida were the most talked-about stories, followed closely by the presidential race, Bob Woodward’s report of Donald Trump’s close relationship with Vladimir Putin, and the escalation of violence in the Middle East. Climate change, the economy, abortion rights, the migrant crisis, the Russia-Ukraine war, and the MLB playoffs were also among the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday (10/9), according to ongoing research from TALKERS.
MH: Modern Digital Tech Inducing Artificial Telepathy

TALKERS publisher Michael Harrison went into self-described “woo woo” mode on a packed house of New Jersey political, civic, and business leaders at last Friday’s Hurley in the Morning Foundation Charity Dinner in Atlantic City (10/4) discussing the biological and sociological impact of modern era communications technology. He discussed the potential impact of AI on the talk show host job market, and the shortening of attention spans, as well as a variety of modern era developments in 21st century communications. One of the many highlights of Harrison’s 48-minute keynote address was his observation that the digital rewiring of the Homo sapiens brain within a burgeoning information environment is artificially evolving humanity into a “technologically induced telepathic species.” Harrison said that we already can communicate with just about anyone in the world, at lightning speed, about all the information on the planet and beyond, with our ever-shrinking devices. The next step is to implant chips directly into our sensory lobes. “Then we can communicate without devices by simply twitching our noses or thinking an algorithmic code.” Harrison added, “The children born since 2015 are aliens from the future. We are on the verge of an unprecedentedly huge generational divide.” To see a brief clip of Harrison’s comments please click here.
BFoA Adjusts Grant Guidelines and Application Process
In the wake of the catastrophic impact of Hurricane Helene and the impending Hurricane Milton, the Broadcasters Foundation of America is taking immediate steps to make sure every broadcaster who qualifies for emergency aid receives it quickly. BFoA president Tim McCarthy states, “We’ve temporarily adjusted our
already streamlined Emergency Grant Guidelines and Application Process to make it even easier and faster to get funds into the hands of broadcasters hit hardest by these storms. The situation is catastrophic for many of our colleagues and with insufficient or total lack of internet service, an individual or families cannot even submit an application.” Under the adjusted guidelines, broadcasters who have suffered catastrophic loss contact their market or general manager, who then fills out the Hurricanes Helene and Milton Group Submission Form for all of those within their station who are applying. To access the new temporary application form market or general managers may click here. For more information about the Broadcasters Foundation, including how to apply for aid or make a donation, visit www.broadcastersfoundation.org, or contact 212-373-8250 or info@thebfoa.org.
Yesterday’s (10/8) Top News/Talk Media Stories
The aftermath of Hurricane Helene and today’s expected landfall of Hurricane Milton in Florida were the most talked-about stories, followed closely by the presidential race, Bob Woodward’s report of Donald Trump’s close relationship with Vladimir Putin, and the escalation of violence in the Middle East. Climate change, the economy, abortion rights, the migrant crisis, the Russia-Ukraine war, and the MLB playoffs were also among the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday (10/8), according to ongoing research from TALKERS.
Yesterday’s (10/7) Top News/Talk Media Stories
The aftermath of Hurricane Helene and anticipation of Hurricane Milton were the most talked-about stories, followed closely by the presidential race and the escalation of violence in the Middle East. Climate change, the economy, abortion rights, the migrant crisis, the Russia-Ukraine war, and the MLB playoffs were also among the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday (10/7), according to ongoing research from TALKERS.
GOP Eyes New York City WABC Owner John Catsimatidis as Preferred Candidate for Mayor if Adams Resigns
According to a story by reporter Kerry Picket in yesterday’s issue of The Washington Times (10/6), Big Apple Republicans want WABC owner John Catsimatidis to run for mayor of New York City if embattled Mayor Eric Adams resigns from the post and a special election follows. The article says, according to a New York GOP source, the city’s five county chairmen prefer Catsimatidis, over any other potential Republican looking to become the next mayor of the city. TALKERS publisher Michael Harrison reacted to the story by saying, “John Catsimatidis would make a great mayor for New York – but NYC’s gain would be radio’s loss. He’s one of the shining lights among the ranks of today’s radio ownership.” Harrison adds, “As far as I know, this is news to Catsimatidis as well as the rest of us. I do not believe he has spoken to anyone about this prior to the speculation based on The Washington Times sources. Regardless, it sure makes sense.” Catsimatidis owns multiple businesses, including a chain of supermarkets in Manhattan and WABC, where he hosts two political talk shows. He also heads up the Red Apple Group, a real estate and aviation company worth about $2 billion in holdings. To read the entire article, please click here.
TALKERS News Notes
Broadcasters Foundation Asks Broadcasters in Affected Areas to Spread the Word To Colleagues That Help Is Available for Those in Greatest Need. The Broadcasters Foundation of America is delivering emergency financial assistance to qualifying colleagues in the radio and TV industry who have been personally hit hard by Hurricane Helene. The Foundation’s Emergency Grant Program is set up with a streamlined vetting process that enables the charity to get emergency funds to those in desperate need quickly. “Broken pipes, power outages, displacement, and more have brought devastation to many of our colleagues,” noted Tim McCarthy, president of the BFoA. “We’ve already approved over half a dozen requests and that’s just the beginning. Based on the number of requests from previous disasters, we know that figure will grow significantly as those impacted by the storm assess their damage and determine the costs. “We’ve also reached out to groups and state associations in the areas impacted by Hurricane Helene and asked them to inform their employees and members that we are here to provide aid to those who need it most,” McCarthy added. “Our colleagues cannot be left alone to struggle.” Individuals in radio and television may apply for emergency aid to see if they qualify by clicking here. For more information about the Broadcasters Foundation, including how to apply for aid or make a donation, visit www.broadcastersfoundation.org, or contact 212-373-8250 or info@thebfoa.org.
Lifestyle Show with Frankie Boyer Debuts on WGCH Radio, Greewich, CT. Veteran award-winning radio talk show host for 24+ years, Frankie Boyer has announced the addition of her new broadcast, “The Frankie Boyer Lifestyle Show,” which airs on WGCH, News Talk AM 1490, Greenwich, CT.
The one-hour show is live weekdays from 6:00 -7:00 pm. WGCH covers Fairfield County, CT as well as neighboring Westchester County, NY. The station serves the community with extensive local news, sports and talk programming. Boyer tells TALKERS, “My show will be fast paced, very informative, full of joy and very uplifting, for my listeners.” Boyer hosts two other syndicated shows – “Cannabis Talk A-Z” and “Frankie Boyer Radio.” For more information contact 508-878-1782 or frankieboyer@aol.com
PodcastOne Appoints Jim Lally Head of Business Development. PodcastOne announced today that Jim Lally has joined the company as its head of business development.
He will report directly to PodcastOne’s president Kit Gray and will leverage his industry expertise to expand internal sales and publishing synergies, increase talent revenues and the company’s prominence with both media buyers and content creators. Lally, an industry veteran, joins from Libsyn Ads, where he served as director of brand partnerships.
Michael Harrison to Keynote and Be Honored Tonight at Hurley Charity Dinner in AC

TALKERS founder Michael Harrison has been named keynote speaker and guest of honor at this evening’s 16th Annual Hurley in the Morning Charity Foundation Dinner Gala and Silent Auction. The event, organized annually by WPG, Atlantic City morning host and noted radio industry
philanthropist Harry Hurley, has raised more than $1.4 million for worthy causes across New Jersey and beyond. It has become one of the most important annual civic events in the Garden State drawing 270+ guests including government officials, media representatives and community-minded business leaders. The gala will be at Resorts Casino Hotel in Atlantic City. Harrison says, “This is a huge honor and I’m looking forward to addressing this distinguished event with observations about the media’s position at the crossroads between politics, journalism and changing social norms.” Hurley tells TALKERS, “Our special event will be taking place four weeks before one of the most consequential national elections in American history… arguably, the most important election since the Civil War era. It deserves to have a keynote speaker as even-handed and eloquent as Michael Harrison.”
Presidential Race and VP Debate Top News/Talk Media Story for Week of September 30 – October 4
The presidential race and VP debate combined as the most-talked-about story in news/talk media this week and takes the top spot on the Talkers Ten. At #2 this week was the escalation of violence in the Middle East, followed by the economy, inflation, and the stock market at #3. The Talkers Ten is a weekly chart of the top stories and people discussed in news/talk media during the week and is the result of ongoing research from TALKERS. It is published every Friday at Talkers.com. See this week’s complete chart here.
Federal News Network Seeks New Host and Anchor for its Flagship Program
DC-based Federal News Network, the premier source of news and information for federal employees and contractors, is seeking a new host and anchor for its flagship program, “The Federal Drive.”
FNN is looking for someone who brings excitement, passion, and interest in providing federal and industry executives with news and information about the policies, people and programs that drive the mission of the federal government. The ideal candidate MUST have knowledge of, and high degree of interest in, information technology, acquisition, human resources, financial and program management as they operate within the federal government. The current managing editor and anchor of the Federal Drive, Tom Temin, is retiring in April 2025 after 17 years of leading the program and more than 45 years in journalism. For this position, experience in developing ideas, conducting, and managing interviews is strongly preferred, but consideration will be given for the right person with the right background in federal issues. The host is primarily responsible for show content and adherence to Federal News Network editorial niche of serving federal employees and contractors. Federal News Network (first called WTOP2), the world’s first, Internet-only, all-news radio station was created in February 2000 with a focus on the federal community. Federal News Network is owned by Hubbard Radio. Federal News Network can be heard on a clear channel 50,000 watt station on 1500 AM. If you are interested in applying, contact Federal News Network executive editor Jason Miller and check out the job posting.
