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Analysis

News/Talk Holiday 2022 & Holiday 2023 Overview

By TALKERS | by TALKERS

By Mike Kinosian
TALKERS magazine
Managing Editor

imLast week, we recapped how all-news stations have recently performed in Nielsen Audio‘s (volatile) “Holiday” PPM survey periods.

As a companion piece, the following summarizes ratings performances of news/talk stations in the two most recent “Holiday” sweeps.

“Holiday” 2022 – “Holiday” 2023 6+ Increase, 43%.

“Holiday” 2022 – “Holiday” 2023 6+ Decrease, 50%.

“Holiday” 2022 – “Holiday” 2023 6+ Flat, 7%.

Average “Holiday” 2022 – “Holiday” 6+ 2023 Increase, +.61.

Average “Holiday” 2022 – “Holiday” 6+ 2023 Decrease, -.98.

Typical “Holiday” 6+ Share, 3.19 (2022), versus 3.01 (2023).

Representative “Holiday” 6+ Market Rank, #12.42 (2022), versus #12.26 (2023).

News/Talk Composite 6+ Share/Rank Arranged By Market Size

                                    “Hol”      “Hol”

                                    2022       2023

WABC, New York                    3.1    #10    3.0    #11

KFI, Los Angeles                     4.4    #3     4.6    #4

WGN, Chicago                        2.8    #12    2.6    #11

WLS-AM, Chicago                   0.9    #24    1.7    #19

KSFO, San Francisco              1.7    #18    1.4    #22

WBAP, Dallas                         3.7    #8     2.8    #14

KTRH, Houston                      3.3    #12    2.6    #17

WSB-AM & WSBB, Atlanta      4.4    #7     7.4    #2

WMAL, Washington                3.4    #7     3.1    #9

WPHT, Philadelphia                0.8    #24    1.7    #19

WKXW, Philadelphia               1.2    #20    1.2    #23

WRKO, Boston                       2.8    #13    3.1    #9

KIRO-FM, Seattle                    5.5    #3     4.0    #6

KFYI, Phoenix                         3.3    #8     2.9    #8

KTAR-FM, Phoenix                 1.7    #22    2.2    #14

WJR, Detroit                          2.3    #15    2.4    #15

WCCO, Minneapolis                3.7    #12    3.8    #10

KTMY, Minneapolis                 3.1    #14    1.9    #17

KTLK, Minneapolis                 2.0    #17    1.6    #19

WHPT, Tampa                        3.7    #12    4.1    #7

WFLA, Tampa                         2.2    #17    3.2    #13

KOA, Denver                          2.4    #16    2.7    #14

KHOW, Denver                       1.5    #20    1.4    #19

KOGO, San Diego                   5.4    #5     3.9    #6

WABC, Long Island                 1.1    #21    1.1    #20

WBT, Charlotte                       3.7    #10    4.0    #9

KXL, Portland                         6.0    #5     4.9    #6

KEX, Portland                       2.2    #16    1.1    #21

WBAL, Baltimore                    3.6    #10    2.7    #11

WCBM, Baltimore                   1.6    #17    1.5    #17

WMAL, Baltimore                   0.6    #20    DNA  DNA

KMOX, St. Louis                     4.4    #9     2.8    #14

KFTK, St. Louis                      1.4    #17    1.5    #17

KTLK-FM, St. Louis                0.5    #23    1.1    #18

WOAI, San Antonio                 2.6    #13    2.4    #15

KTSA, San Antonio                 2.5    #14    1.8    #19

KSL, Salt Lake City                 4.6    #5     3.6    #9

KNRS, Salt Lake City              4.4    #6     2.2    #17

KFBK, Sacramento                 8.8    #2     6.1    #3

KSTE-AM, Sacramento            3.2    #8     2.1    #16

KLBJ-AM, Austin                    4.4    #5     4.1    #6

WTKS, Orlando                      5.1    #7     3.1    #12

WDBO, Orlando                     4.6    #8     3.1    #12

WFLF, Orlando                       0.7    #22    0.6    #20

KDKA-AM, Pittsburgh             2.8    #13    3.6    #8

KDKA-AM Stream, Pittsburgh 0.7    #19    0.4    #22

KDWN, Las Vegas                   2.3    #16    DNA  DNA

WLW, Cincinnati                    10.7   #1     10.8   #2

WKRC, Cincinnati                   2.8    #13    4.5    #6

KMBZ-FM, Kansas City           3.2    #11    4.1    #7

KCMO-AM, Kansas City          0.4    #25    1.8    #17

KMBZ-AM, Kansas City           1.4    #20    1.4    #19

WTAM, Cleveland                   4.6    #8     4.8    #8

WTVN, Columbus                   5.3    #8     4.5    #7

WTKK, Raleigh                       10.4   #2     5.0    #5

WIBC, Indianapolis                 5.7    #3     4.8    #8

KSFO, San Jose                     1.1    #22    1.5    #19

WWTN, Nashville                    4.9    #7     3.9    #12

WLAC, Nashville                     1.2    #17    1.2    #19

WKXW, Middlesex                   6.2    #4     5.7    #4

WOR, Middlesex                     0.4    #26    1.6    #15

WKXW-Stream, Middlesex       DNA  DNA  0.7    #20

WISN, Milwaukee                   8.8    #3     9.0    #1

WTMJ, Milwaukee                   6.2    #5     6.4    #5

WPRO-AM, Providence            4.5    #7     5.9    #5

WHJJ, Providence                   0.5    #18    0.8    #15

WNIS, Norfolk                        2.8    #11    2.0    #14

WOKV-FM, Jacksonville          6.1    #5     6.5    #3

WPTI, Greensboro                   3.2    #8     3.3    #8

WFTL, West Palm Beach         1.0    #15    2.1    #9

WZZR, West Palm Beach         1.7    #10    1.3    #13

WJNO, West Palm Beach        1.1    #13    0.6    #15

WREC, Memphis                    2.6    #13    1.0    #11

WKIM, Memphis                     2.1    #15    DNA  DNA

KWAM, Memphis                    0.4    #21    0.4    #13

WTIC-AM, Hartford                 5.1    #6     5.2    #6

WDRC-AM, Hartford               1.0    #17    1.5    #15

WTIC-AM-Stream, Hartford     0.2    #20    0.4    #19

WPOP, Hartford                      0.2    #20    DNA  DNA

“Holiday” 2023 6+ Share (Highest to Lowest)

WLW, Cincinnati                    10.8

WISN, Milwaukee                   9.0

WSB-AM & WSBB, Atlanta      7.4

WOKV-FM, Jacksonville          6.5

WTMJ, Milwaukee                   6.4

KFBK, Sacramento                 6.1

WPRO-AM, Providence            5.9

WKXW, Middlesex                   5.7

WTIC-AM, Hartford                 5.2

WTKK, Raleigh                       5.0

KXL, Portland                         4.9

WTAM, Cleveland                   4.8

WIBC, Indianapolis                 4.8

KFI, Los Angeles                     4.6

WKRC, Cincinnati                   4.5

WTVN, Columbus                   4.5

WHPT, Tampa                        4.1

KLBJ-AM, Austin                    4.1

KMBZ-FM, Kansas City           4.1

KIRO-FM, Seattle                    4.0

WBT, Charlotte                       4.0

KOGO, San Diego                   3.9

WWTN, Nashville                    3.9

WCCO, Minneapolis                3.8

KSL, Salt Lake City                 3.6

KDKA-AM, Pittsburgh             3.6

WPTI, Greensboro                   3.3

WFLA, Tampa                         3.2

WMAL, Washington                3.1

WRKO, Boston                       3.1

WDBO, Orlando                     3.1

WTKS, Orlando                      3.1

WABC, New York                    3.0

KFYI, Phoenix                         2.9

WBAP, Dallas                         2.8

KMOX, St. Louis                     2.8

KOA, Denver                          2.7

WBAL, Baltimore                    2.7

WGN, Chicago                        2.6

KTRH, Houston                      2.6

WJR, Detroit                          2.4

WOAI, San Antonio                 2.4

KTAR-FM, Phoenix                 2.2

KNRS, Salt Lake City              2.2

KSTE-AM, Sacramento            2.1

WFTL, West Palm Beach         2.1

WNIS, Norfolk                        2.0

KTMY, Minneapolis                 1.9

KTSA, San Antonio                 1.8

KCMO-AM, Kansas City          1.8

WLS-AM, Chicago                   1.7

WPHT, Philadelphia                1.7

KTLK, Minneapolis                 1.6

WOR, Middlesex                     1.6

WCBM, Baltimore                   1.5

KFTK, St. Louis                      1.5

KSFO, San Jose                     1.5

WDRC-AM, Hartford               1.5

KHOW, Denver                       1.4

KMBZ-AM, Kansas City           1.4

WZZR, West Palm Beach         1.3

WLAC, Nashville                     1.2

WABC, Long Island                 1.1

KTLK-FM, St. Louis                1.1

WREC, Memphis                    1.0

WHJJ, Providence                   0.8

WKXW-Stream, Middlesex       0.7

WFLF, Orlando                       0.6

WJNO, West Palm Beach        0.6

KWAM, Memphis                    0.4

WTIC-AM-Stream, Hartford     0.4

“Holiday” 2023 6+ Market Rank   

WISN, Milwaukee                   #1

WSB-AM & WSBB, Atlanta      #2

WLW, Cincinnati                    #2

KFBK, Sacramento                 #3

WOKV-FM, Jacksonville          #3

KFI, Los Angeles                     #4

WKXW, Middlesex                   #4

WTKK, Raleigh                       #5

WTMJ, Milwaukee                   #5

WPRO-AM, Providence            #5

KIRO-FM, Seattle                    #6

KOGO, San Diego                   #6

KXL, Portland                         #6

KLBJ-AM, Austin                    #6

WKRC, Cincinnati                   #6

WTIC-AM, Hartford                 #6

WHPT, Tampa                        #7

KMBZ-FM, Kansas City           #7

WTVN, Columbus                   #7

KFYI, Phoenix                         #8

KDKA-AM, Pittsburgh             #8

WTAM, Cleveland                   #8

WIBC, Indianapolis                 #8

WPTI, Greensboro                   #8

WMAL, Washington                #9

WRKO, Boston                       #9

WBT, Charlotte                       #9

KSL, Salt Lake City                 #9

WFTL, West Palm Beach         #9

WCCO, Minneapolis                #10

WABC, New York                    #11

WGN, Chicago                        #11

WBAL, Baltimore                    #11

WREC, Memphis                    #11

WDBO, Orlando                     #12

WTKS, Orlando                      #12

WWTN, Nashville                    #12

WFLA, Tampa                         #13

WZZR, West Palm Beach         #13

KWAM, Memphis                    #13

WBAP, Dallas                         #14

KTAR-FM, Phoenix                 #14

KOA, Denver                          #14

KMOX, St. Louis                     #14

WNIS, Norfolk                        #14

WJR, Detroit                          #15

WOAI, San Antonio                 #15

WOR, Middlesex                     #15

WHJJ, Providence                   #15

WJNO, West Palm Beach        #15

WDRC-AM, Hartford               #15

KSTE-AM, Sacramento            #16

KTRH, Houston                      #17

KTMY, Minneapolis                 #17

WCBM, Baltimore                   #17

KFTK, St. Louis                      #17

KNRS, Salt Lake City              #17

KCMO-AM, Kansas City          #17

KTLK-FM, St. Louis                #18

WLS-AM, Chicago                   #19

WPHT, Philadelphia                #19

KTLK, Minneapolis                 #19

KHOW, Denver                       #19

KTSA, San Antonio                 #19

KMBZ-AM, Kansas City           #19

KSFO, San Jose                     #19

WLAC, Nashville                     #19

WTIC-AM-Stream, Hartford     #19

WABC, Long Island                 #20

WFLF, Orlando                       #20

WKXW-Stream, Middlesex       #20

“Holiday” 2022 6+ Share (Highest to Lowest)

WLW, Cincinnati                   10.7

WTKK, Raleigh                      10.4

KFBK, Sacramento                8.8

WISN, Milwaukee                  8.8

WKXW, Middlesex                  6.2

WTMJ, Milwaukee                  6.2

WOKV-FM, Jacksonville         6.1

KXL, Portland                        6.0

WIBC, Indianapolis                5.7

KIRO-FM, Seattle                   5.5

KOGO, San Diego                  5.4

WTVN, Columbus                  5.3

WTKS, Orlando                     5.1

WTIC-AM, Hartford                5.1

WWTN, Nashville                   4.9

KSL, Salt Lake City                4.6

WDBO, Orlando                    4.6

WTAM, Cleveland                  4.6

WPRO-AM, Providence           4.5

KFI, Los Angeles                    4.4

WSB-AM & WSBB, Atlanta      4.4

KMOX, St. Louis                    4.4

KNRS, Salt Lake City             4.4

KLBJ-AM, Austin                   4.4

WBAP, Dallas                        3.7

WCCO, Minneapolis               3.7

WHPT, Tampa                       3.7

WBT, Charlotte                      3.7

WBAL, Baltimore                   3.6

WMAL, Washington                3.4

KTRH, Houston                     3.3

KFYI, Phoenix                        3.3

KSTE-AM, Sacramento           3.2

KMBZ-FM, Kansas City          3.2

WPTI, Greensboro                  3.2

WABC, New York                   3.1

KTMY, Minneapolis                3.1

WGN, Chicago                       2.8

WRKO, Boston                       2.8

KDKA-AM, Pittsburgh            2.8

WKRC, Cincinnati                  2.8

WNIS, Norfolk                       2.8

WOAI, San Antonio                2.6

WREC, Memphis                   2.6

KTSA, San Antonio                2.5

KOA, Denver                         2.4

WJR, Detroit                         2.3

KDWN, Las Vegas                  2.3

WFLA, Tampa                        2.2

KEX, Portland                       2.2

WKIM, Memphis                    2.1

KTLK, Minneapolis                2.0

KSFO, San Francisco             1.7

WZZR, West Palm Beach         1.7

WCBM, Baltimore                  1.6

KHOW, Denver                      1.5

KFTK, St. Louis                     1.4

KMBZ-AM, Kansas City          1.4

WKXW, Philadelphia               1.2

WLAC, Nashville                    1.2

WJNO, West Palm Beach         1.1

WFTL, West Palm Beach         1.0

WDRC-AM, Hartford              1.0

KDKA-AM Stream, Pittsburgh 0.7

WMAL, Baltimore                  0.6

WHJJ, Providence                  0.5

WPOP, Hartford                     0.2

WTIC-AM-Stream, Hartford     0.2

“Holiday” 2022 6+ Market Rank  

WLW, Cincinnati                   #1

KFBK, Sacramento                #2

WTKK, Raleigh                      #2

KFI, Los Angeles                    #3

KIRO-FM, Seattle                   #3

WIBC, Indianapolis                #3

WISN, Milwaukee                  #3

WKXW, Middlesex                  #4

KOGO, San Diego                  #5

KXL, Portland                        #5

KSL, Salt Lake City                #5

KLBJ-AM, Austin                   #5

WTMJ, Milwaukee                  #5

WOKV-FM, Jacksonville         #5

KNRS, Salt Lake City             #6

WTIC-AM, Hartford                #6

WSB-AM & WSBB, Atlanta      #7

WMAL, Washington                #7

WTKS, Orlando                     #7

WWTN, Nashville                   #7

WPRO-AM, Providence           #7

WBAP, Dallas                        #8

KFYI, Phoenix                        #8

KSTE-AM, Sacramento           #8

WDBO, Orlando                    #8

WTAM, Cleveland                  #8

WTVN, Columbus                  #8

WPTI, Greensboro                  #8

KMOX, St. Louis                    #9

WABC, New York                   #10

WBT, Charlotte                      #10

WBAL, Baltimore                   #10

WZZR, West Palm Beach         #10

KMBZ-FM, Kansas City          #11

WNIS, Norfolk                       #11

WGN, Chicago                       #12

KTRH, Houston                     #12

WCCO, Minneapolis               #12

WHPT, Tampa                       #12

WRKO, Boston                       #13

WOAI, San Antonio                #13

KDKA-AM, Pittsburgh            #13

WKRC, Cincinnati                  #13

WJNO, West Palm Beach         #13

WREC, Memphis                   #13

KTMY, Minneapolis                #14

KTSA, San Antonio                #14

WJR, Detroit                         #15

WFTL, West Palm Beach         #15

WKIM, Memphis                    #15

KOA, Denver                         #16

KEX, Portland                       #16

KDWN, Las Vegas                  #16

KTLK, Minneapolis                #17

WFLA, Tampa                        #17

WCBM, Baltimore                  #17

KFTK, St. Louis                     #17

WLAC, Nashville                    #17

WDRC-AM, Hartford              #17

KSFO, San Francisco             #18

WHJJ, Providence                  #18

KDKA-AM Stream, Pittsburgh #19

WKXW, Philadelphia               #20

KHOW, Denver                      #20

WMAL, Baltimore                  #20

KMBZ-AM, Kansas City          #20

WTIC-AM-Stream, Hartford     #20

WPOP, Hartford                     #20

“Holiday” 2023 6+ Fluctuation from “Holiday” 2022

WSB-AM & WSBB, Atlanta      +3.0

WKRC, Cincinnati                   +1.7

KCMO-AM, Kansas City          +1.4

WPRO-AM, Providence            +1.4

WOR, Middlesex                     +1.2

WFTL, West Palm Beach         +1.1

WFLA, Tampa                         +1.0

WPHT, Philadelphia                +.9

KMBZ-FM, Kansas City           +.9

WLS-AM, Chicago                   +.8

KDKA-AM, Pittsburgh             +.8

KTLK-FM, St. Louis                +.6

KTAR-FM, Phoenix                 +.5

WDRC-AM, Hartford               +.5

WHPT, Tampa                        +.4

KSFO, San Jose                     +.4

WOKV-FM, Jacksonville          +.4

WRKO, Boston                       +.3

KOA, Denver                          +.3

WBT, Charlotte                       +.3

WHJJ, Providence                   +.3

KFI, Los Angeles                     +.2

WTAM, Cleveland                   +.2

WISN, Milwaukee                   +.2

WTMJ, Milwaukee                   +.2

WTIC-AM-Stream, Hartford     +.2

WJR, Detroit                          +.1

WCCO, Minneapolis                +.1

KFTK, St. Louis                      +.1

WLW, Cincinnati                    +.1

WPTI, Greensboro                   +.1

WTIC-AM, Hartford                 +.1

WKXW, Philadelphia               Flat

WABC, Long Island                 Flat

KMBZ-AM, Kansas City           Flat

WLAC, Nashville                     Flat

KWAM, Memphis                    Flat

WTKK, Raleigh                       -5.4

KFBK, Sacramento                 -2.7

KNRS, Salt Lake City              -2.2

WTKS, Orlando                      -2.0

KMOX, St. Louis                     -1.6

WREC, Memphis                    -1.6

KIRO-FM, Seattle                    -1.5

KOGO, San Diego                   -1.5

WDBO, Orlando                     -1.5

KTMY, Minneapolis                 -1.2

KXL, Portland                         -1.1

KEX, Portland                       -1.1

KSTE-AM, Sacramento            -1.1

KSL, Salt Lake City                 -1.0

WWTN, Nashville                    -1.0

WBAP, Dallas                         -.9

WBAL, Baltimore                    -.9

WIBC, Indianapolis                 -.9

WTVN, Columbus                   -.8

WNIS, Norfolk                        -.8

KTRH, Houston                      -.7

KTSA, San Antonio                 -.7

WKXW, Middlesex                   -.5

WJNO, West Palm Beach        -.5

KFYI, Phoenix                         -.4

KTLK, Minneapolis                 -.4

WZZR, West Palm Beach         -.4

KSFO, San Francisco              -.3

WMAL, Washington                -.3

KLBJ-AM, Austin                    -.3

KDKA-AM Stream, Pittsburgh -.3

WGN, Chicago                        -.2

WOAI, San Antonio                 -.2

WABC, New York                    -.1

KHOW, Denver                       -.1

WCBM, Baltimore                   -.1

WFLF, Orlando                       -.1

Notes

  • News/talk stations appearing above typically posted a “Holiday” 2022 6+ share of 19, compared to “Holiday” 2023’s 3.01.
  • Even though news/talk’s year-to-year 6+ share dropped slightly, market rank managed to improve – albeit by a razor thin margin (#12.42 – #12.26, 6+).
  • Exactly half the news/talk stations in our sample (50%) faltered from “Holiday” 2022 – “Holiday” 2023, with the average dip roughly being a full-share (-.98).
  • Among all news/talk stations in the 48 PPM markets, Cincinnati’s WLW boasts the strongest 6+ share in “Holiday” 2023 (8) and “Holiday” 2022 (10.7).
  • Precisely four of every ten (40%) news/talk stations listed finished in the top ten (“Holiday” 2023, 6+), off marginally from “Holiday” 2022’s 43%.
  • Whereas WSB-AM & WSBB notches news/talk’s loftiest 6+ “Holiday” 2022 – “Holiday” 2023 gain (4.4 – 7.4, +3.0) – enabling “Atlanta’s News & Talk” to vault from seventh to second – WTKK suffers a more than 50% year-to-year erosion (10.4 – 5.0, -5.4, 6+), dropping from second in Raleigh to fifth.
  • All above data is based on news/talk stations that appeared in the top twenty in the “Holiday” 2022 and/or “Holiday” 2023 survey period.
  • “DNA” indicates a station “Did Not Appear” in that particular survey and/or wasn’t a Nielsen Audio subscriber in that sweep.

Contact managing editor Mike Kinosian at Mike.Kinosian@gmail.com

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Talk radio host Joe Madison – also known for much of his career as The Black Eagle – died on Thursday (2/1) at 74 after a battle with cancer. His family released the following statement: “It is with a heavy heart that we announce the passing of our beloved husband and father, Joe Madison. He passed away peacefully at home surrounded by family. Joe dedicated his life to fighting for all those who are undervalued, underestimated, and marginalized. On air he often posed the question, ‘What are you going to do about it?’ Although he is no longer with us, we hope you will join us in answering that call by continuing to be proactive in the fight against injustice. The outpouring of prayers and support over the last few months lifted Joe’s spirits and strengthened us as a family. We continue to ask for privacy as we gather together to support each other through this difficult time.” Madison had been hosting the morning drive program on SiriusXM’s Urban View channel since 2008. Before he went into radio, Madison had become the youngest Detroit NAACP chapter leader at 24 years old. While Madison dabbled in radio while at Washington University in St. Louis, he first worked in commercial radio at Detroit’s WXYZ. From there he hosted a show on WWDB-FM, Philadelphia before moving to Washington, DC for a long stint at WWRC. He moved across town to Radio One-owned WOL, Washington where he hosted the afternoon drive show and served as program director. At this time, Radio One began syndicating his show nationally and it was simultaneously added to the lineup at SiriusXM. TALKERS founder Michael Harrison issued the following statement: “Joe Madison was one of the greatest of the greats among radio talk show hosts of the modern era. He transcended the role of ‘talent’ to rise among the ranks of America’s most influential civil rights thought leaders. His devoted following crossed the boundaries of race, age, gender, and politics. During his illustrious career, in addition to receiving countless awards in the fields of broadcasting and activism, he was a recipient of TALKERS magazine’s two most important honors, the Freedom of Speech Award and the Humanitarian of the Year Award. I am humbled to have had the privilege of this great man’s friendship for more than three decades and will treasure his inspiring memory for the rest of my days.”

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Top News/Talk Media Stories for Week of January 29 – February 2

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The U.S. migrant crisis combined with the House’s Articles of Impeachment against Homeland Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas was the most-talked-about story in news/talk media this week, landing atop the Talkers TenTM. At #2 this week was the military tensions between the U.S. and Iran, tied with the Houthi rebel attacks on ships in the Red Sea, followed by the Israel-Hamas war at #3. The Talkers TenTM is a weekly chart of the top stories and people discussed in news/talk media during the week and is the result of ongoing research from TALKERS magazine. It is published every Friday at Talkers.com. See this week’s complete chart here.

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Yesterday’s (1/31) Top News/Talk Media Stories

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U.S.-Iran tensions; the U.S. migrant crisis and the Articles of Impeachment against Homeland Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas; the Israel-Hamas war and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza; the 2024 presidential race; Ron DeSantis vs Disney; former president Donald Trump’s legal battles and the allegations against Fani Willis; the Russia-Ukraine war and Ukraine’s plea for aid; the testimony from tech leaders about online safety at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing; and the FBI announces Chinese hackers threaten critical U.S. infrastructure were some of the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday, according to ongoing research from TALKERS magazine.

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Ratings Analysis: All-News During the “Holiday” Survey

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imToday, TALKERS magazine managing editor Mike Kinosian does a deep-dive into the recent performances of the all-news format during Nielsen Audio’s “Holiday” PPM ratings period. He writes, “Ever since Arbitron (now Nielsen Audio) instituted the Portable People Meter as ratings currency in 2007, the ‘Holiday’ ratings period has been a veritable goldmine for stations employing the wall-to-wall Christmas music programming strategy. Adult contemporary comprises the overwhelming majority of those outlets. Usually substantial, however, is the negative impact on many other formats in ‘Holiday’ sweeps.” See his analysis of the past four “Holiday” surveys here.

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Two Crows in Jupiter

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Pictured above with the iconic blackbirds familiar to Florida deli enthusiasts as the feathered mascots of the TooJays restaurant chain are Steve Lapa, president, Lapcom Communications Corp (left) and TALKERS publisher Michael Harrison (right) who met yesterday (1/30) over a hearty bowl of matzoh ball soup to discuss plans for the sales and marketing component of the forthcoming 27th annual TALKERS conference. Lapa, a regular TALKERS columnist and one of the radio industry’s leading experts on the challenges of revenue generation in the digital age, will moderate the sales workshop at the 27th annual installment of talk media’s longest running and most important national convention. Details for TALKERS 2024 will be announced next week. Meantime, save the date Friday, June 7.

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Yesterday’s (1/30) Top News/Talk Media Stories

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The U.S. migrant crisis and the House votes to move forward with Articles of Impeachment against Homeland Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas; the 2024 presidential race and MAGA versus Taylor Swift; the deadly attacks on a U.S. military base in Jordan that Joe Biden blames on Iran; the Israel-Hamas war and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza; the U.S. battle against Houthi rebels in the Red Sea; the Fani Willis allegations; former President Donald Trump’s legal battles; and the FBI announces Chinese hackers threaten critical U.S. infrastructure were some of the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday, according to ongoing research from TALKERS magazine.

Ratings Takeaways

Has All-News Taken A “Holiday?”

By TALKERS | by TALKERS

By Mike Kinosian
TALKERS magazine
Managing Editor

imEver since Arbitron (now Nielsen Audio) instituted the Portable People Meter as ratings currency in 2007, the “Holiday” ratings period has been a veritable goldmine for stations employing the wall-to-wall Christmas music programming strategy.

Adult contemporary comprises the overwhelming majority of those outlets.

Usually substantial, however, is the negative impact on many other formats in “Holiday” sweeps.

With that in mind, let’s review how all-news stations have performed in the last four “Holiday” survey periods.

The 2020 presidential election was held on November 3, thus exactly one month prior to the start of that year’s “Holiday” sweep (December 3). It should additionally be remembered that the COVID pandemic was roughly entering its tenth month. Eerily, the final day of that survey period was January 6, 2021, the day of domestic terrorism/insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.

Over the course of the “Holiday” 2023 ratings period (December 7, 2023 – January 3, 2024), all-news operations again battled for listenership in the ongoing annual all-Christmas music environment. Ostensibly working in their favor, however, was that the 2024 presidential campaign was waging and the previous president was embroiled in a record number of legal cases/charges/indictments.

The following chart summarizes ratings performances of all-news stations in the four most recent “Holiday” sweeps.

                                                                 2020       2021       2022       2023

“Holiday” 6+ Share                                       3.70        3.32        3.50        2.88

December – “Holiday” Increase                       35%        40%        30%        5%

December – “Holiday” Decrease                      50%        50%        65%        85%

December – “Holiday” Flat                             15%        10%        5%          10%

Average December – “Holiday” Increase           +.31        +.22        +.28        +.40

Average December – “Holiday” Decrease          -.68         -.21         -.29         -.40

“Holiday” 6+ Market Rank                             #10.40    #12.15     #10.55     #13.20

  • The typical (6+) high-water mark logged by an all-news facility was 2020’s 70, more than eight-tenths of a share better than 2023’s 2.88
  • Four of ten (40%) all-news stations improved December 2021 – “Holiday” 2021 (6+)
  • On the other hand, 85% of these formatted stations witnessed (6+) December 2023 – “Holiday” 2023 erosion
  • Note the virtual identical average increases/average decreases for all-news outlets in the last three “Holiday” sweeps
  • It was customary for an all-news facility to rank tenth in “Holiday” 2020 (#10.40), but thirteenthin “Holiday” 2023 (#13.20)

“Holiday” 2023 6+ Share (Highest to Lowest)

WTOP & WTLP, Washington            6.3

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Francisco    5.7

WBBM-AM & WCFS, Chicago          4.9

KYW, Philadelphia                         4.7

WBZ-AM, Boston                          4.7

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Jose           4.5

WWJ, Detroit                                4.3

WINS-FM, New York                      3.9

WINS-FM, Long Island                   3.3

KNX-FM, Los Angeles                     2.5

WCBS-AM, Long Island                  2.5

KNWN, Seattle                              2.3

WINS-FM, Middlesex                      1.8

WCBS-AM, New York                     1.6

KRLD-AM, Dallas                          1.4

WTOP & WTLP, Baltimore               1.0

WCBS-AM, Middlesex                     1.0

WDCH, Baltimore                          .8

WRAL-HD3, Raleigh                       .2

WNOH, Norfolk                             .2

“Holiday” 2023 6+ Fluctuation from December 2023

WCBS-AM, Long Island                  2.5   +.4

WWJ, Detroit                                4.3   Flat

WDCH, Baltimore                          .8     Flat

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Jose           4.5   -1.2

WINS-FM, Long Island                   3.3   -1.1

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Francisco    5.7   -.7

WTOP & WTLP, Washington            6.3   -.6

KYW, Philadelphia                         4.7   -.5

KRLD-AM, Dallas                          1.4   -.4

WBZ-AM, Boston                          4.7   -.4

WBBM-AM & WCFS, Chicago          4.9   -.3

KNWN, Seattle                              2.3   -.3

WCBS-AM, Middlesex                     1.0   -.3

WINS-FM, New York                      3.9   -.2

KNX-FM, Los Angeles                     2.5   -.2

WINS-FM, Middlesex                      1.8   -.2

WCBS-AM, New York                     1.6   -.1

WTOP & WTLP, Baltimore               1.0   -.1

WRAL-HD3, Raleigh                       .2     -.1

WNOH, Norfolk                             .2     -.1

  • WCBS-AM’s four-tenths uptick in Long Island represents the only all-news December 2023 – “Holiday” 2023 increase (6+).

“Holiday” 2023 By Market Rank  

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Francisco    5.7   #3

WBBM-AM & WCFS, Chicago          4.9   #4

WTOP & WTLP, Washington            6.3   #4

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Jose           4.5   #4

WBZ-AM, Boston                          4.7   #5

KYW, Philadelphia                         4.7   #6

WINS-FM, New York                      3.9   #9

WWJ, Detroit                                4.3   #9

WINS-FM, Long Island                   3.3   #9

KNX-FM, Los Angeles                     2.5   #12

WCBS-AM, Long Island                  2.5   #12

WINS-FM, Middlesex                      1.8   #13

WCBS-AM, Middlesex                     1.0   #18

WCBS-AM, New York                     1.6   #19

KNWN, Seattle                              2.3   #20

WTOP & WTLP, Baltimore               1.0   #20

WDCH, Baltimore                          .8     #22

WRAL-HD3, Raleigh                       .2     #24

WNOH, Norfolk                             .2     #24

KRLD-AM, Dallas                          1.4   #27

  • Forty-five percent (45%) of all-news stations ranked in the top ten (“Holiday” 2023, 6+).

“Holiday” 2022 6+ Share (Highest to Lowest)

WTOP & WTLP, Washington            7.8

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Jose           7.0

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Francisco    6.7

KYW, Philadelphia                         6.2

KNWN, Seattle                              5.5

WBBM-AM & WCFS, Chicago          4.8

WBZ-AM, Boston                          4.8

WINS-FM, New York                      4.6

WWJ, Detroit                                4.5

WCBS-AM, Long Island                  3.8

WINS-FM, Long Island                    3.0

KNX-FM, Los Angeles                     2.5

KRLD-AM, Dallas                          2.2

WCBS-AM, New York                     2.0

WINS-FM, Middlesex                      1.7

WCBS-AM, Middlesex                     1.2

WNOH, Norfolk                             .8

WDCH, Baltimore                          .6

WRAL-HD3, Raleigh                       .2

WYTS, Columbus                          .1

“Holiday” 2022 6+ Fluctuation from December 2022

WINS-FM, New York                      4.6   +.4

KYW, Philadelphia                         6.2   +.4

WCBS-AM, Long Island                  3.8   +.4

KNWN, Seattle                              5.5   +.3

WBZ-AM, Boston                          4.8   +.1

WINS-FM, Long Island                   3.0   +.1

WYTS, Columbus                          .1     Flat

WTOP & WTLP, Washington            7.8   -.8

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Francisco    6.7   -.7

WNOH, Norfolk                             .8     -.7

KNX-FM, Los Angeles                     2.5   -.4

KRLD-AM, Dallas                          2.2   -.3

WCBS-AM, New York                     2.0   -.2

WBBM-AM & WCFS, Chicago          4.8   -.1

WWJ, Detroit                                4.5   -.1

WDCH, Baltimore                          .6     -.1

WRAL-HD3, Raleigh                       .2     -.1

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Jose           7.0   -.1

WINS-FM, Middlesex                      1.7   -.1

WCBS-AM, Middlesex                     1.2   -.1

“Holiday” 2022 By Market Rank  

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Francisco    6.7   #2

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Jose           7.0   #2

WTOP & WTLP, Washington            7.8   #3

KYW, Philadelphia                         6.2   #3

KNWN, Seattle                              5.5   #3

WBBM-AM & WCFS, Chicago          4.8   #4

WINS-FM, New York                      4.6   #5

WBZ-AM, Boston                          4.8   #6

WWJ, Detroit                                4.5   #7

WCBS-AM, Long Island                  3.8   #7

WINS-FM, Long Island                   3.0   #10

KNX-FM, Los Angeles                     2.5   #12

WINS-FM, Middlesex                      1.7   #14

WRAL-HD3, Raleigh                       .2     #16

WCBS-AM, New York                     2.0   #17

WCBS-AM, Middlesex                     1.2   #18

KRLD-AM, Dallas                          2.2   #20

WDCH, Baltimore                          .6     #20

WNOH, Norfolk                             .8     #20

WYTS, Columbus                          .1     #22

  • One of every two (50%) all-news facilities finished in the top ten (“Holiday” 2022, 6+).

“Holiday” 2021 6+ Share (Highest to Lowest)

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Francisco    6.7

WBZ-AM, Boston                          6.5

WTOP & WTLP, Washington            6.4

WBBM-AM & WCFS, Chicago          5.6

KNWN, Seattle                              5.5

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Jose           5.4

WWJ, Detroit                                5.0

KYW, Philadelphia                         4.7

WINS, New York                            4.4

WCBS-AM, Long Island                  3.1

KNX-FM, Los Angeles                     2.8

WINS, Long Island                         2.7

WCBS-AM, New York                     2.6

KRLD-AM, Dallas                          1.6

WCBS-AM, Middlesex                     1.6

WINS, Middlesex                           1.1

WNOH, Norfolk                             .4

WDCH, Baltimore                          .1

WMMS-HD2, Cleveland                  .1

WYTS, Columbus                          .1

“Holiday” 2021 6+ Fluctuation from December 2021

WINS, New York                            4.4   +.6

WCBS-AM, New York                     2.6   +.4

KNX-FM, Los Angeles                     2.8   +.2

KNWN, Seattle                              5.5   +.2

KYW, Philadelphia                         4.7   +.1

WINS, Middlesex                           1.1   +.1

WCBS-AM, Middlesex                     1.6   +.1

WNOH, Norfolk                             .4     +.1

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Francisco    6.7   Flat

WYTS, Columbus                          .1     Flat

WTOP & WTLP, Washington            6.4   -.4

WBZ-AM, Boston                          6.5   -.4

KRLD-AM, Dallas                          1.6   -.3

WCBS-AM, Long Island                  3.1   -.2

WDCH, Baltimore                          .1     -.2

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Jose           5.4   -.2

WBBM-AM & WCFS, Chicago          5.6   -.1

WWJ, Detroit                                5.0   -.1

WINS, Long Island                         2.7   -.1

WMMS-HD2, Cleveland                  .1     -.1

“Holiday” 2021 By Market Rank  

WBBM-AM & WCFS, Chicago          5.6   #3

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Francisco    6.7   #3

WBZ-AM, Boston                          6.5   #3

KNWN, Seattle                              5.5   #3

WTOP & WTLP, Washington            6.4   #4

WWJ, Detroit                                5.0   #4

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Jose           5.4   #4

WINS, New York                            4.4   #5

KYW, Philadelphia                         4.7   #6

WCBS-AM, Long Island                  3.1   #8

KNX-FM, Los Angeles                     2.8   #11

WCBS-AM, New York                     2.6   #13

WINS, Long Island                         2.7   #13

WCBS-AM, Middlesex                     1.6   #19

WMMS-HD2, Cleveland                  .1     #21

WYTS, Columbus                          .1     #20

WNOH, Norfolk                             .4     #22

WINS, Middlesex                           1.1   #23

KRLD-AM, Dallas                          1.6   #26

WDCH, Baltimore                          .1     #32

  • Mirroring what happened in “Holiday” 2022, half the all-news facilities placed in the top ten (“Holiday” 2021, 6+).

“Holiday” 2020 6+ Share (Highest to Lowest)

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Francisco    8.1

WTOP & WTLP, Washington            8.1

WBBM-AM & WCFS, Chicago          6.8

WBZ-AM, Boston                          6.5

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Jose           5.6

KYW, Philadelphia                         5.4

KOMO, Seattle                              4.6

WWJ, Detroit                                4.5

WINS, New York                            3.6

KNX, Los Angeles                          3.2

WCBS-AM, Long Island                  2.9

WCBS-AM, New York                     2.7

WINS, Long Island                         2.6

WCBS-AM, Middlesex                     2.4

WBZ-AM, Providence                       1.4

KRLD-AM, Dallas                           1.3

WINS, Middlesex                            1.2

WNOH, Norfolk                             1.2

WDCH, Baltimore                          0.8

WMMS-HD2, Cleveland                  0.1

“Holiday” 2020 6+ Fluctuation from December 2020

KYW, Philadelphia                         5.4   +.5

WBZ-AM, Providence                       1.4   +.4

WINS, New York                            3.6   +.3

WCBS-AM, Middlesex                     2.4   +.3

WNOH, Norfolk                             1.2   +.3

WCBS-AM, New York                     2.7   +.2

WINS, Middlesex                           1.2   +.2

WBBM-AM & WCFS, Chicago          6.8   Flat

KRLD-AM, Dallas                          1.3   Flat

WMMS-HD2, Cleveland                  0.1   Flat

WTOP & WTLP, Washington            8.1   -1.6

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Jose           5.6   -1.4

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Francisco    8.1   -1.0

KOMO, Seattle                              4.6   -.7

WCBS-AM, Long Island                  2.9   -.7

WWJ, Detroit                                4.5   -.6

WBZ-AM, Boston                          6.5   -.3

WINS, Long Island                         2.6   -.3

KNX, Los Angeles                          3.2   -.1

WDCH, Baltimore                          0.8   -.1

“Holiday” 2020 By Market Rank  

WBZ-AM, Boston                          6.5   #2

WBBM-AM & WCFS, Chicago          6.8   #3

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Francisco    8.1   #3

WTOP & WTLP, Washington            8.1   #3

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Jose           5.6   #4

KYW, Philadelphia                         5.4   #5

KOMO, Seattle                              4.6   #6

WWJ, Detroit                                4.5   #6

WINS, New York                            3.6   #7

KNX, Los Angeles                          3.2   #9

WCBS-AM, New York                     2.7   #12

WCBS-AM, Long Island                  2.9   #12

WNOH, Norfolk                             1.2   #12

WINS, Long Island                         2.6   #13

WBZ-AM, Providence                       1.4   #13

WCBS-AM, Middlesex                     2.4   #14

WMMS-HD2, Cleveland                  0.1   #17

WDCH, Baltimore                          0.8   #21

WINS, Middlesex                           1.2   #22

KRLD-AM, Dallas                          1.3   #24

All-News Composite Arranged By Market Rank    

                                                  “Hol” 2020     “Hol” 2021     “Hol” 2022     “Hol” 2023

WINS-FM, New York                      3.6   #7           4.4   #5           4.6   #5           3.9   #9

WCBS-AM, New York                     2.7   #12         2.6   #13         2.0   #17         1.6   #19

KNX-FM, Los Angeles                     3.2   #9           2.8   #11         2.5   #12         2.5   #12

WBBM-AM & WCFS, Chicago          6.8   #3           5.6   #3           4.8   #4           4.9   #4

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Francisco    8.1   #3           6.7   #3           6.7   #2           5.7   #3

KRLD-AM, Dallas                          1.3   #24         1.6   #26         2.2   #20         1.4   #27

WTOP & WTLP, Washington            8.1   #3           6.4   #4           7.8   #3           6.3   #4

KYW, Philadelphia                         5.4   #5           4.7   #6           6.2   #3           4.7   #6

WBZ-AM, Boston                          6.5   #2           6.5   #3           4.8   #6           4.7   #5

KNWN, Seattle                               4.6   #6           5.5   #3           5.5   #3           2.3   #20

WWJ, Detroit                                4.5   #6           5.0   #4           4.5   #7           4.3   #9

WINS-FM, Long Island                   2.6   #13         2.7   #13         3.0   #10         3.3   #9

WCBS-AM, Long Island                  2.9   #12         3.1   #8           3.8   #7           2.5   #12

WDCH, Baltimore                          .8     #21         .1     #32         .6     #20         .8     #22

WTOP & WTLP, Baltimore               DNA DNA        DNA DNA        DNA DNA        1.0   #20

WMMS-HD2, Cleveland                  .1     #17         .1     #21         DNA DNA        DNA DNA

WYTS, Columbus                          DNA DNA        .1     #20         .1     #22         DNA DNA

WRAL-HD3, Raleigh                       DNA DNA        DNA DNA        .2     #16         .2     #24

KCBS-AM & KFRC, San Jose           5.6   #4           5.4   #4           7.0   #2           4.5   #4

WINS-FM, Middlesex                      1.2   #22         1.1   #23         1.7   #14         1.8   #13

WCBS-AM, Middlesex                     2.4   #14         1.6   #19         1.2   #18         1.0   #18

WBZ-AM, Providence                       1.4   #13         DNA DNA        DNA DNA        DNA DNA

WNOH, Norfolk                             1.2   #12         .4     #22         .8     #20         .2     #24

Notes

  • WINS-AM, New York added FM simulcast WINS-FM on October 27, 2022
  • KNX-AM, Los Angeles added FM simulcast KNX-FM on December 21, 2021
  • KRLD-AM, Dallas and WBZ-AM, Boston are news – talk hybrids
  • KOMO, Seattle changed calls to KNWN on February 2, 2022
  • WDCH, Baltimore is business news
  • WMMS-HD2, Cleveland and WNOH, Norfolk are Black Information Network affiliates
  • “DNA” indicates a station “Did Not Appear” in that particular survey and/or wasn’t a Nielsen Audio subscriber in that sweep
  • All above data is based on news stations that appeared in the top twenty in at least one of the four “Holiday” survey periods noted (2020, 2021, 2022, 2023)

Contact managing editor Mike Kinosian at Mike.Kinosian@gmail.com

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Yesterday’s (1/29) Top News/Talk Media Stories

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The deaths of three U.S. servicemembers in Jordan and military tensions between the U.S. and Iran; the Israel-Hamas war and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza; the 2024 presidential race; the U.S. migrant crisis and the impeachment of Homeland Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas; the Fani Willis affair allegations; former President Donald Trump’s legal battles; and the liquidation of Evergrande and the state of the Chinese economy were some of most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday, according to ongoing research from TALKERS magazine.

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Round Four of Holiday 2023 PPM Ratings Released

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imThe fourth of four rounds of ratings data from Nielsen Audio’s Holiday 2023 PPM survey has been released for 12 markets including Austin, Raleigh, Indianapolis, Milwaukee, Nashville, Providence, Norfolk, Jacksonville, West Palm Beach, Greensboro, Memphis, and Hartford. The survey period covers December 7, 2023 – January 3, 2024. Today, TALKERS magazine managing editor Mike Kinosian presents his Ratings Takeaways from this group of markets. In Raleigh, iHeartMedia’s news/talk WTKK-FM falls a full share to finish with a 5.0 share (weekly, 6+ AQH share) that leaves it ranked #5, while Curtis Media’s news/talk WPTF loses two-tenths for a .6 share finish good for the #22 rank. In Milwaukee, iHeartMedia’s news/talk WISN sheds six-tenths to wrap the survey with a 9.0 share, but remains ranked #1 for the fourth consecutive survey, while Good Karma Brands’ news/talk WTMJ declines 1.2 shares for a 6.4 share finish that leaves it ranked #5. In Nashville, Cumulus Media’s news/talk WWTN-FM falls four-tenths to a 3.9 share good for the #12 rank, while iHeartMedia’s news/talk WLAC-AM dips three-tenths to a 1.2 share and remains ranked #19. See Mike Kinosian’s Ratings Takeaways for this group of markets – as well as the other 36 markets – here.

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Top News/Talk Media Stories Over the Weekend

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The 2024 presidential race; Jordan drone attack kills three U.S. servicemembers; U.S. migrant crisis and the negotiations in congress over aid for Ukraine; House Republicans release articles of impeachment against Homeland Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas; the Fani Willis affair allegations; former President Donald Trump’s legal battles; the Israel-Hamas war; and the liquidation of China’s Evergrande were some of the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media over the weekend, according to ongoing research from TALKERS magazine.

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Top News/Talk Media Stories for Week of January 22-26

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The 2024 presidential race was the most-talked-about story in news/talk media this week, landing atop the Talkers TenTM. At #2 this week was the U.S. migrant crisis tied with congress’ negotiations on military aid to Ukraine, followed by Donald Trump’s legal battles tied with the allegations Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis had a romantic relationship with a Trump prosecutor at #3. The Talkers TenTM is a weekly chart of the top stories and people discussed in news/talk media during the week and is the result of ongoing research from TALKERS magazine. It is published every Friday at Talkers.com. See this week’s complete chart here.

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TALKERS News Notes

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Beasley Broadcast Group, Inc will report its 2023 fourth quarter and full year financial results before the market opens on Monday, February 12. Beasley will host a conference call and webcast at 11:00 am ET that morning to review the results.

Aiir Inc announces that Andy Buckingham rejoins the company next month in the new role of principal creative technologist. Buckingham was previously SVP, product innovation until leaving in 2020 to launch his own company Togglebit. Aiir Inc CEO Ricki Lee says, “After leaving Aiir full-time a few years ago, we retained Andy’s company for development work and he has played a pivotal part in the development of our new product Aiir Scheduler, the world’s first fully cloud-based music scheduler for radio. I cannot tell you how delighted I am to be welcoming Andy back to our team full-time.”

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Yesterday’s Top News/Talk Media Stories

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The presidential race and Donald Trump’s victory in New Hampshire’s primary; the efforts in congress to pass border security legislation and provide aid to Ukraine; Trump’s legal battles; the Israel-Hamas war and Benjamin Netanyahu’s criticism of Qatar’s mediation efforts; the U.S. military’s battles against Houthi rebels; the FAA begins an inspection process to get Boeing’s 737 Max 9 back in the air; the Russia-Ukraine war and the downing of a military plane carrying 74 people; and the Arizona GOP’s Kari Lake–Jeff DeWit controversy were some of the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday, according to ongoing research from TALKERS magazine.

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TV and Radio Legend Charles Osgood Dies at 91

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The broadcasting industry is mourning Charles Osgood, who passed away on Tuesday (1/23) at his home in New Jersey at age 91 after a battle with dementia. Osgood spent 45 years of his broadcasting career at CBS News, hosting the iconic “CBS Sunday Morning” program from 1994 through 2016.im During his CBS career, he appeared on every CBS News program including “CBS Morning News,” the “CBS Evening News with Dan Rather” and the “CBS Sunday Night News.” For almost 46 years he produced his nationally syndicated radio feature, “The Osgood File,” from which he signed off with his signature phrase, “I’ll see you on the radio.” As Osgood was preparing to retire from “CBS Morning News” in 2016, he was a guest on TALKERS magazine founder Michael Harrison’s podcast. You can listen to that program here. Also, TALKERS magazine managing editor Mike Kinosian – then serving as special features editor for Inside Radio – had the opportunity to profile Osgood. You can read that here.

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Yesterday’s Top News/Talk Media Stories

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The presidential race and Donald Trump’s victory in the New Hampshire primary; Trump’s legal battles and the Fani Willis controversy; U.S. migrant crisis and the SCOTUS razor wire ruling; the Israel-Hamas war and Benjamin Netanyahu’s opposition to a Palestinian state; more troubles crop up for Boeing; financial troubles at the Los Angeles Times; the Doomsday Clock; AI and social media; the Oscar nominations and the snub of Barbie director Greta Gerwig and lead actor Margot Robbie were some of the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday, according to ongoing research from TALKERS magazine.

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Remembering Charles Osgood

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By Mike Kinosian
TALKERS magazine
Managing Editor

imDespite his seemingly nonchalant, bad boy on-air persona, David Letterman is exceptionally respectful of broadcasting and its history.

An easily discernable gleam could be seen in the late-night talk host’s eyes when – in 1993 – he formally announced he was jumping to CBS-TV.

One would be naïve not to think that the astonishingly lucrative payday played a significant part in his exhilaration, but Letterman was genuinely enthusiastic about joining the “Tiffany Network.” The entertainment division helped sculpt that vaulted reputation, but the Eye Network’s image was also greatly enhanced by its stellar news department.

Names of those who’ve graced CBS news broadcasts read like a veritable “Who’s Who” of the industry, with the incomparable Walter Cronkite at the very top.

Additionally, there’s Murrow. Sevareid. Collingwood. Rather. Reasoner. Wallace. Edwards. Kuralt. Safer. Mudd. Bradley. Schieffer. Stahl. Rooney. Burdett. Pauley. Hottelet. Chung. Threlkeld. O’Donnell. That just scratches the surface.

Perhaps no one on that – or any similar – list is more erudite, witty and thought provoking than Charles Osgood (Wood).

In a special April 18, 2005 NAB presentation in Las Vegas, the man who did as much for boosting bowtie sales (far pre-dating Tucker Carlson) received the Paul White Award from the RTNDA.

Established in 1956, the recognition carries on the name of CBS’ first news director.

Illustrious company

Past Paul White Award recipients have included Edward R. Murrow, Dan Rather, Bob Schieffer, Ed Bradley, Tom Brokaw, Ted Koppel, Peter Jennings, and Jane Pauley, who succeeded Osgood on CBS-TV’s “Sunday Morning” in 2016. Osgood humbly noted, “I’ve known about the Paul White Award for a long time and have been there to see others get it. It’s obviously a very distinguished company I join. I was there when [former CBS News Division President] Richard Salant [received] it and certainly regard it with a lot of respect. If you hang around long enough, it finally gets to be your turn.”

There’s a parallel with this recognition and Osgood’s 1990 induction to the NAB Hall of Fame. “[Neither] one is the kind of thing you campaign for,” he remarked. “The first I heard about it is when they called and told me it happened. There’s no tension about it and no disappointment that you didn’t get it.”    

Mistaken identity

Rich, God-given voice with which Osgood was blessed became evident at an early age. “My dad was a textile salesman and executive. His name was Charles Osgood Wood – I’m actually Charles Osgood Wood, the third. I’d answer the phone and the person on the other end would [automatically assume they were talking to my father]. He and I talked almost exactly alike.” 

Somewhat of a built-in schizophrenia existed in the famed broadcaster. A friend with whom he’d frequently play tennis noticed that when the multiple Peabody and Emmy Award winner screwed up he’d say, “Come on Osgood.” As a result, “I’d be harder on ‘Osgood’ than I would be on ‘Wood.’ You don’t talk to yourself when you do something right – you just sort of smile.”

Distinctive difference

Understandably, the natural tendency was to automatically link the instantly likable Osgood to CBS for his impeccable long-running role as voice/writer of CBS Radio’s “The Osgood File” and for hosting duties of CBS-TV’s “Sunday Morning.” In addition, he spent six years (1981-1987) as anchor of “The CBS Sunday Night News.”

Many, however, forget that predating those résumé credits, he toiled for ABC.

When he began there, ABC – as luck would have it – already had an announcer named Charles Woods. “In those days, some staff announcers did newscasts,” Osgood explained. “They hired me, but said they didn’t want to have a Charles Woods and a Charles Wood. When they told me to pick a name, I used my middle name as my last name. It’s worked out well and is a little more distinctive and professional.”

Safe haven

Selection of another type made a great impact on his life, as the broadcaster with the industry’s most stylish writing style was an Economics major at New York’s Fordham University. “I never really had an idea that this is what I was cut out to do,” Osgood candidly stated. “As a result, I never took any writing or editing courses. When I started [in broadcasting], I really hung on by my fingernails and just did it the best way I could think of. It took more than a couple of years to get a sense of what I could do. If I’d started the kinds of things in journalism school that I do now, they would have said, ‘No – that’s not how you do it.’ I would have had it drummed out of me early on.” 

Thankfully though, someone realized a broadcaster existed within Osgood and the New York native became actively involved at Fordham’s campus radio station. “That was my locker – the place I’d go between classes,” he pointed out. “At least in those days, regardless of your [declared major], you really majored in Philosophy. You learned things like ethics, logic and cosmology. That really turned out to be pretty useful for what I’m doing.”

Never was there a moment’s regret for the father of five that he didn’t pursue a career in economics. “I’m not even sure I understood what economics was when I decided to make it my major,” Osgood sheepishly admitted. “I knew it had something to do with money and I thought it would be good to know something about that.” 

Sailing with Uncle Walter

As things eventuated, it was immaterial that Osgood never took any college journalism courses. “I went to the best school of broadcast journalism that you could go to, [because] I got to work with Walter Cronkite and a pretty potent lineup of [other] people,” Osgood asserted. “I was often in the same room and could see how Walter’s mind worked and his idea of telling a story. He’s the most centered guy you’re ever going to meet and is very tough.”

Fabled anchorman Cronkite was also managing editor of “The CBS Evening News,” a responsibility he took very seriously. “He was a newsman and kept asking questions of everybody; I have all the respect in the world for him,” Osgood reverently recalled of Cronkite, who was 92 when he died in 2009. “Within a year after I went to work in the CBS newsroom, I found myself sailing in a boat with Walter Cronkite. I felt like I died and went to heaven.” 

Mid-1950s on-air job at Washington, DC classical outlet WGMS enabled Osgood to display his familiarity with – and dexterity to handle –  names like Nikolay Rimsky-Korsakoff. “I really did like that kind of music,” the long time ASCAP member emphasized. “They [eventually] gave me a job that was like the assistant to the GM. It paid all of about $25 a week, but I learned a little bit about station management. WGMS was sold to RKO General and I ended up being program director and, for a time, co-manager.”

Ahead of its time

Also dotting Osgood’s notable vitae is a 1963 stint as general manager of Hartford’s WHCT, the country’s first pay television station. “It was an over-the-air station that CBS owned at one time. It had a mechanism that would encode both picture and sound.”

Subscribers paid $125 for a decoder that needed to be attached to their television set; however, Osgood readily conceded it wasn’t exactly the ideal system. “Color was starting to come on strong, but this only worked in black and white, [so] we had a few strikes against us going in. We were, however, able to play ‘subsequent first-run’ movies – [films] that hadn’t yet been seen in local theaters.”

A tape inside the decoder recorded what a subscriber watched and customers were sent a bill once a month. “The system as an experiment failed, but it was not a bad idea,” Osgood maintained. “Now, of course, we have pay-per-view television, which is essentially the same thing.” 

Shared versus singular responsibilities

Each Osgood-fronted “Sunday Morning” broadcast concluded with the affable host reminding viewers that he would, “See you on the radio,” which was his way of reinforcing that radio is a visual medium. “You create pictures in your own mind and those are much richer than the ones that can be shown on television,” Osgood contended. “On television, what you see is what you get and [that medium] is very pre-occupied with the picture. There’s often wonderful writing there, but television people don’t tend to think about that or the sound at all.”

Images are their main focus and having had vast experience in each medium, Osgood opined that radio is a much more individual effort. “You decide what you’re going to do; you write it; and you do it. You can take all the credit or blame for whatever you do on radio. Television is a collaborative process. There are producers, writers and photographers. One person really can’t take any bows.”

Demanding schedule

One hour separated each of his four daily “Osgood File” features. The general rule was that Osgood didn’t start writing the next one until he finished delivering the last. “If it takes more than an hour, I’m in a lot of trouble,” he deadpanned. “I have to write it in somewhat less than an hour.”

Preparation for that Monday through Friday workday ritual began at the petrifying time of 2:30 am. “It somehow always feels like a horrible mistake when the alarm goes off then,” Osgood declared in his perfectly inflected trademark delivery. “I’m usually in the office at 4:30 am. I have to get my ducks in a row before [doing the first piece] so I know what I’m going to do the rest of the morning. You spend part of that time reading to see what’s there in the way of tape and to see what news stories are of interest that morning.” 

Newspapers, wire sources and the internet provided plenty of possibilities, so Osgood didn’t start worrying about what he was going to put on paper until he arrived at the office. “The news is a constantly refreshing source of material,” he commented. “If you’re doing something that has to last for a long time, you have a different problem. It’s just a question of what you can get your teeth into.”

Road to Sunday Morning

Four-year tour of duty (1967 – 1971) as morning anchor/reporter at New York City’s all-news WCBS-AM got Osgood accustomed to getting up early; he had the luxury of sleeping in until 4:30 am each Sunday. “You have no idea how much later 4:30 am is than 2:30 am,” he convincingly put forth. “I don’t have to get up early on Saturdays. There are [‘Osgood File’] shows, but they’re repeats of things that were done during the week. It’s a great delight to wake up on a Saturday and then realize I can go back to sleep, but it’s still never that late. I get up by 7:00 am.”

Energetic Osgood actually preferred a slow news day when it came to doing his 90-minute Sunday television broadcast. “I’m certain I’m the only network TV anchor who hopes there’s no news. We’ve worked on the show all week and want to do the broadcast that was planned. Some of our shows have themes or, at least, have connections between the pieces. If there’s a big story, you might have to throw something out and that may – or may not – hold up the following week.”                                                    

Succeeding Charles Kuralt as host of “Sunday Morning” nearly 30 years ago (4/10/1994) was a tough act for Osgood to follow, especially since he viewed “On The Road” legend Kuralt as a great personal hero. “He was one of the best who ever came along,” Osgood succinctly stressed. “Charles was a country boy with that wonderful North Carolina accent and had a way of using the language. I thought he was simply terrific. He taught me a lot, [including] not to imitate or copy what you hear. He was in control of every sentence he put down and had an idea of how he wanted to come across to the audience; he was really brilliant.”

Admiration for his predecessor

No advance notice was given to Osgood that his colleague – who would die of complications from lupus in 1997 at just 62 – was planning to leave the Sunday morning show. “I remember getting up one day at the usual hour and putting on my socks in a dark room,” Osgood recollected. “I had the radio on and heard Charlie had announced his retirement. That was terrible news and it never even occurred to me that CBS might ask me to replace him. For one thing, I was older than Charles [by approximately 20 months]. You don’t replace a person who retires with someone older, but that’s what happened. The real reason I got the job was they needed someone whose first name is Charles.”       

Sunday’s audience was conditioned to expect a high-level broadcast, and Osgood acknowledged that made the transition much easier. “As long as I didn’t try to be Charles and try to do an imitation of him, I thought I’d be okay [provided] the audience would put up with me long enough to get used to me.”

Certain things about the CBS-TV show were the same every week. “When we change something, the audience usually doesn’t like it at first,” Osgood contended. “It was especially daunting for me at the beginning because [Kuralt] was so terrific.” 

All tied up

Play a visual word association game about Osgood and “bowtie” will invariably be the first response, but he viewed that fashion statement as a relatively new choice. “I’ve only been doing it for 20 years,” he quipped tongue-in-cheek.

It all began when he wore a clip-on bowtie to work one day. CBS-TV “Evening News” writer John Mosedale admonished Osgood to never wear a clip-on. “He actually walked me into the men’s room and taught me how to tie a bowtie. When you teach an old dog a new trick, he wants to keep doing it. I wear a bowtie when I do speaking dates or television. The excuse I use for my attire is that I get dressed in the dark.”

Write stuff

This author of six books (the last one, 2004’s “Defending Baltimore Against Enemy Attack”) also formerly wrote a “USA Weekend” column and a King Features’ syndicated column. Moreover, he had a full plate with four daily CBS Radio shows (via Westwood One) and a weekly morning television show. “I always have a book that I’m either thinking about or actually in the process of writing,” CBS’ “Poet In Residence’ disclosed. “I’ve been talking with publishers about several book ideas, but they’re not far enough along to really [discuss] at this point. The [leisure time] thing I do more than anything else is fooling around at the piano; I like doing that.”

Unexpected situations like receiving the Paul White Award; being inducted into the NAB Hall Of Fame; and replacing Charles Kuralt as host of CBS Sunday Morning seemed to be the norm for the 1999 International Radio & Television Society Foundation award winner for Significant Achievement.

Long-range plans

With that as a backdrop, it was noteworthy that Osgood never considered himself to be a permanent replacement for Dan Rather on the “CBS Evening News” – a job that would eventually go to Katie Couric in 2006. “I’m not a candidate for anything,” Osgood vehemently insisted to me in our conversation, “[although] I do think it’s important that the ‘CBS Evening News’ be our flagship show. When they asked Bob Schieffer what he thought about doing ‘The Evening News,’ he said it was something to keep him busy until he was old enough to be on ‘60 Minutes.’”   

More than satisfied to have carried on with his radio and television assignments, Osgood – who had a summer residence in France – didn’t look forward to retirement. “I like vacations, but I like them because they are vacations. It’s nice to get away from work, but that’s only if you’re working. I hope they realize I intend to continue to do this for a long time. If it stops being fun, that’s when it’s time to hang it up.”

Mike Kinosian can be emailed at Mike.Kinosian@gmail.com

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Yesterday’s (1/22) Top News/Talk Media Stories

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The presidential race and the New Hampshire primary; Donald Trump’s legal battles; the accusations of Georgia AG Fani Willis having an affair with Trump special prosecutor; the U.S. migrant crisis and the SCOTUS ruling allowing border patrol to cut razor wire installed by Texas; U.S. accuses Iran of supporting Houthi rebels attacking ships in the Red Sea; and 24 Israeli soldiers are killed during operations in Gaza were some of the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday, according to ongoing research from TALKERS magazine.

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Top News/Talk Media Stories Over the Weekend

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Ron DeSantis exits the presidential race as Donald Trump and Nikki Haley trade blows; Benjamin Netanyahu rejects Hamas terms for release of hostages; U.S. military strikes on Houthi rebels in Yemen; Donald Trump’s legal battles; abortion rights; the negative news on China’s economy; Alec Baldwin faces manslaughter charges in “Rust” shooting; and the severe winter weather affecting much of the U.S. were some of the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media over the weekend, according to ongoing research from TALKERS magazine.

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Top News/Talk Media Stories for Week of January 15 – 19

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The presidential race and Monday’s Iowa Caucuses combined as the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media this week, landing atop the Talkers TenTM. At #2 this week was the U.S. migrant crisis, followed by former President Donald Trump’s legal battles at #3. The Talkers TenTM is a weekly chart of the top stories and people discussed in news/talk media during the week and is the result of ongoing research from TALKERS magazine. It is published every Friday at Talkers.com. See this week’s complete chart here.

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Yesterday’s (1/17) Top News/Talk Media Stories

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The presidential election and Donald Trump’s victory in the Iowa Caucuses; the U.S. migrant crisis; Trump’s legal battles; the race to avoid a government shutdown; the Israel-Hamas war and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza; hostilities between Iran and Pakistan; the Supreme Court hears arguments in the challenge to the 1984 Chevron ruling giving power to regulatory agencies over the courts; AI and deepfakes; and the severe winter weather affecting much of the U.S. were some of the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday, according to ongoing research from TALKERS magazine.

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Yesterday’s (1/16) Top News/Talk Media Stories

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Donald Trump handily wins Iowa Caucuses; the U.S. migrant crisis; Trump’s legal battles; the Israel-Hamas war and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza; U.S. military strikes on Houthi rebels in Yemen; Iran bombs Pakistan; and extreme winter weather affecting much of the country were some of the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media yesterday, according to ongoing research from TALKERS magazine.

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Top News/Talk Media Stories Over the Weekend

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The 2024 presidential race and today’s Iowa caucuses; House Speaker Mike Johnson’s efforts to avoid a government shutdown; the U.S. migrant crisis; the Israel-Hamas war and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza; U.S. military strikes against the Houthis in Yemen; former President Donald Trump’s legal battles; the Hunter Biden contempt case; Taiwan elects China-named “troublemaker” Lai Ching-te president; the Martin Luther King, Jr holiday; and the brutal winter cold affecting much of the U.S. were some of the most-talked-about stories in news/talk media over the weekend, according to ongoing research from TALKERS magazine.

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Top News/Talk Media Stories for Week of January 8 – 12

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The 2024 presidential race was the most-talked-about story in news/talk media during the week, landing atop the Talkers TenTM. At #2 this week was the U.S. migrant crisis tied with the related move to impeach Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas, followed by the closing arguments in the Trump Organization civil trial in New York at #3. The Talkers TenTM is a weekly chart of the top stories and people discussed in news/talk media during the week and is the result of ongoing research from TALKERS magazine. It is published every Friday at Talkers.com. See this week’s complete chart here.